8 Electrons in a 3-D Infinite Square Well w/ Spin

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The problem involves determining the ground state energy of eight electrons confined in a three-dimensional infinite square well. The context includes considerations of quantum mechanics, specifically the behavior of particles under the Pauli Exclusion Principle and the energy levels of a quantum system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Pauli Exclusion Principle and the filling of energy levels by electrons. There is an exploration of how to calculate the total energy based on the quantum states occupied by the electrons. Questions are raised about the correctness of the energy expression and the consideration of different quantum states.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the energy calculation. There is acknowledgment of the need to consider distinct quantum states and the implications of the Pauli Exclusion Principle on the filling of these states. Some participants are refining their understanding of the energy levels and the factors involved in the calculations.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the electrons do not interact with each other, but they must account for their spin. There is a focus on ensuring that the correct quantum states are identified and filled according to the rules of quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement



A cubical box whose sides are length L contains eight electrons. As a multiple of $$\frac{h^2}{2mL^2}$$ what is the energy of the ground state of the eight electrons?

Assume the electrons do not interact with each other but do not neglect spin.


Homework Equations



1.) $$E_n=\frac{h^2}{2mL^2}(n_{x}^2+n_{y}^2+n_{z}^2)$$
2.) The Pauli Exclusion Principle

The Attempt at a Solution



My logic is that there are only two electrons allowed in each energy level by the Pauli Exclusion principle. Therefore, two electrons will occupy each of the single electron quantum states. This sounds like a terrible assumption but regardless I just decided to add up 2 times each of the first four energy levels of the single particle quantum square well.

$$K=\frac{h^2}{2mL^2}$$
$$E_{0}=\text{Energy of the ground state of the 8 electrons}$$
$$E_0=2\cdot 3K+2\cdot 6K+2\cdot 9K+2\cdot 12K=60K$$

I got the factors of 3,6,9 and 12 from: $$n_{x}^2+n_{y}^2+n_{z}^2$$

The 1,1,1 produces 3
The 2,1,1 produces 6
The 2,2,1 produces 9
The 2,2,2 produces 12

Did I do this correctly? Thanks ahead of time.
 
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klawlor419 said:
I got the factors of 3,6,9 and 12 from: $$n_{x}^2+n_{y}^2+n_{z}^2$$
The 1,1,1 produces 3
The 2,1,1 produces 6
The 2,2,1 produces 9
The 2,2,2 produces 12

What about 1,2,1, etc?

EDIT: Are you sure the numerical factor of 2 in the denominator is correct in your expression $$E_n=\frac{h^2}{2mL^2}(n_{x}^2+n_{y}^2+n_{z}^2) \; ?$$
 
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I see now, I knew I was slightly missing something! Thanks for catching the factor also. I had it on paper as an 8 ;)

So the first four states that get filled with 2 electrons each, are the:
1,1,1
2,1,1
1,2,1
1,1,2

Though the last 3 are states that have the same energy, they are distinct states that need to be filled before the:
2,2,1
2,1,2
1,2,2 states get filled!

Thanks!
 
Good work!
 

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