A bullet droppet and a bullet fired

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The discussion revolves around the physics of projectile motion and free fall, specifically comparing the behavior of a bullet dropped from a height to one fired horizontally from the same height. Participants explore the implications of gravity acting on both bullets and the conditions under which they would hit the ground simultaneously.

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  • Participants discuss the effects of gravity on both bullets, questioning the assumptions of air resistance and the conditions of the environment (e.g., vacuum vs. atmospheric conditions). They explore the independence of horizontal and vertical motions in projectile motion.

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The discussion includes varying perspectives on the scenario, with some participants affirming the simultaneous impact under ideal conditions, while others introduce complexities such as air resistance and the curvature of the Earth. There is no explicit consensus, but productive points regarding the independence of motion and gravitational effects have been raised.

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Participants mention constraints like the assumption of a vacuum and the neglect of air resistance, as well as the potential impact of Earth's curvature on the results, indicating that these factors are under consideration but not resolved.

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I was told something I really found hard to believe. Two cases:

A) You drop a guns bullet from a height of let's say 1 meter.

B) You fire the bullet from the gun horizontaly, also 1 meter above ground.

What I'm told is that these two bullets will hit the ground at the same time if dropped/fired simultaneously since gravity starts "working" on them at the same time. It sounds amazing, can it really be??
 
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Short answer for purposes of learning basic physics, "Yes." Long answer for purposes of detailed discussion of exterior ballistics, "No." "Yes" assumes an infinite flat plane over which the bullet is fired, and that the bullet travels in vacuum (no lift due to the gravitational density gradient when fired through air or some other gaseous medium).
 
Assuming, as Bystander said, "vacuum" and so no air resistance ("infinite flat plane" is not as important; the Earth is large enough that its curvature within the range of a typical bullet is negligible) then the only force acting on a bullet is gravity. Downward acceleration is the same in both cases. Since horizontal and vertical motions are independent the fired bullet, which has only horizontal initial velocity, and the dropped bullet have the same initial vertical velocity, 0, and so exactly the same vertical motion.
 
Thx, guys :) Still, pretty amazing.
 
Earth's curvature? ~4" a mile. Time? 1/4 s to .7s for 2 to 8' drops. Muzzle velocity? 2000-4000 f/s. 1-2" extra drop time? 1-2 or 3% --- actually, for a classic, this is one of the lousier exercises.
 

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