Trig Substitution for ∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx: Simplifying Complex Integrals

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The discussion focuses on solving the integral ∫ x/(x^2 + x + 1)dx using trigonometric substitution. Participants suggest completing the square for the denominator, transforming it into a more manageable form. The substitution involves setting u = (x + 1/2) to simplify the integral further. There is an emphasis on correctly applying trigonometric identities, particularly the relationship between secant and tangent. The conversation concludes with a participant feeling more confident about completing the solution after addressing earlier mistakes.
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Homework Statement



∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx

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∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx

not really sure where to start on this one, i feel like i should factor the denominator in such a way that i have an expression whose derivative is some constant times x. help please
 
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Try completing the square for x^2 + x+ 1 and then make an appropriate substitution.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Try completing the square for x^2 + x+ 1 and then make an appropriate substitution.

∫ x/√(x^2 + x + 1 -3/4 + 3/4)

√((x + 1/2)^2 + 3/4)

u = (x+1/2)
u = dx

√((u)^2 + 3/4)

u = (√3/2)tanϑ du = √3/2sec^2ϑdϑ

√(u^2 + 3/4) = √3/2secϑ- pi/2 < ϑ < pi/2

then substituting things back in

((√3/2)tanϑ - 1/2)/ √3/2secϑ)* √3/2sec^2ϑdϑ

im weary of that square root in the numerator
 
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hi vande060! :smile:
vande060 said:
√((u)^2 + 3/4)

u = (√3/2)secϑ

oooh :cry: … learn all your trigonometric identities …

sec2 = tan2 + 1, not t'other way round :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi vande060! :smile:oooh :cry: … learn all your trigonometric identities …

sec2 = tan2 + 1, not t'other way round :redface:

fixed, if this is correct so far, i can finish it out myself
 
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