A man is driving around a curve rather quickly one day

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The problem involves a man driving around a curve at a speed of 21.2 m/s, with an object hanging from his mirror that forms an angle of 36.4 degrees with respect to the vertical. The objective is to determine the radius of the curve based on the dynamics of the situation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the object, including gravity and tension, and question the appropriateness of separating these forces into components. There is uncertainty about how to begin the analysis and whether to focus on gravity or tension first.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to analyzing the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the forces and acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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There is a mention of the need to consider the coordinate system used for analysis, as it may affect the simplifications available in the problem. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the homework context, which may limit the information they can use.

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a man is driving around a curve rather quickly one day at 21.2m/s. He has an object hanging from his mirror that makes an angle of 36.4 wih respect to vertical as he goes around the curve. What is the radius of the curve?

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I set up this but i don't know where to start.
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You have written mg sin(θ) and mg cos(θ) on your diagram, but I cannot tell what you think these represent.
 
haruspex said:
You have written mg sin(θ) and mg cos(θ) on your diagram, but I cannot tell what you think these represent.
I was just making a diagram, don't know where to start.
 
HappyFlower said:
I was just making a diagram, don't know where to start.
I am not sure that I agree with your choice in separating gravity into components so soon. But let us see where it leads.

You've identified two forces (the components of gravity) and one acceleration on the object so far. Are there any other forces?
 
would i split up the tension instead that is in the string?
 
HappyFlower said:
would i split up the tension instead that is in the string?
If it were me, I'd likely have split tension into components. But let us see how far we can go having split up gravity instead (see note below).

Can you write down any equations relating mg cos(θ), mg sin(θ), tension and acceleration? (I am guessing that ∝ is intended to denote radial acceleration).

Note:
There are two forces and one acceleration on the object. Gravity, tension and centripetal acceleration. Gravity and centripetal acceleration are at right angles. If you decide to use a coordinate system at an angle to the one then it will be at an angle to the other as well. If you decide to use a coordinate system that is aligned with the one, then it will be aligned with the other as well. That's two simplifications. By contrast, if you align your coordinate system with the angle of the string you only get one simplification.

Either coordinate system will work, but I'm betting that one choice is easier than the other.​
 

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