A spring being compressed between two masses

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The discussion focuses on the application of conservation of energy to a problem involving a spring compressed between two masses. The initial attempt incorrectly equates gravitational potential energy with elastic potential energy at equilibrium. It clarifies that equilibrium means no net force on the mass, but does not imply a complete conversion of energies. The correct relationship involves the spring constant and displacement, leading to the conclusion that the mass continues to move after reaching the equilibrium point. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving similar physics problems accurately.
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The two blocks I and II shown above have masses m and 2m respectively. Block II has an ideal massless
spring attached to one side. When block I is placed on the spring as shown. the spring is compressed a distance
D at equilibrium. Express your answer to all parts of the question in terms of the given quantities and physical
constants.

a. Determine the spring constant of the spring
Relevant Equations
kx=mg

mgh=1/2kx^2
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i attempted this problem by using conservation of energy,
mgh=1/2kx^2
mgD=1/2kD^2
2mg=kD
k=2mg/D

why is it wrong ? btw the correct answer used mg = kx which is mg/D
 
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The term equilibrium means there's no net force on the mass. The condition of equilibrium doesn't really say anything about the relationship between the gravitational and elastic potential energies.

For this specific problem, you seem to be assuming the mass is placed on the uncompressed spring and then released, and when it has fallen to the equilibrium point, the initial gravitational potential energy has been turned into elastic potential energy and the mass is at rest. In reality, you'd find the mass is still moving.
 
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