Abundance of isotopes based on ratios

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the abundances of isotopes of strontium based on given isotopic ratios and atomic masses. The context is primarily homework-related, focusing on the mathematical approach to solve the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on how to find the percentage abundance of strontium isotopes using provided ratios without revealing specific numbers.
  • Another participant suggests performing calculations on the ratios, indicating they should sum to 1, providing an example with a ratio of 3:7.
  • A participant clarifies that there are four isotopes and provides specific ratios between them, expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations.
  • Another participant proposes assigning variables to the masses of the isotopes and formulates equations based on the provided ratios, indicating that these can be solved as a system of linear equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem, with no consensus reached on the specific method to solve for the abundances. Participants express varying levels of understanding and confidence in their approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps required to derive the abundances from the ratios, and there may be assumptions regarding the relationships between the isotopes that are not explicitly stated.

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Homework Statement


how do i find abundances of isotopes of strontium if i am give their isotopic ratios and atomic masses

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The Attempt at a Solution


i know i have to find what the mass of each isotope is in the ratios to find the % abundance. i don't want to put up the actual numbers because i want to work this out myself. i just need a push in the right direction to get started
 
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do the math on the ratios. they should sum to 1.

ie. 3:7 is 3/(3+7) or 0.3
 
i should have mentioned that there are 4 isotopes, I am given 3 ratios and am told to find the abundance of each one
ie. 86Sr/88Sr= 0.12
84Sr/88Sr= 0.007
87Sr/86Sr= 2.5

i really don't know how to go about doing this
 
The masses of the different isotopes can be assigned to variables, w, x, y, z for the Strontiums of masses 84, 86, 87, 88.

Those ratios you were given may then be stated as:
x/z = 0.12
w/z = 0.007
y/x = 2.5

All of the relative masses must sum to 1. This makes a necessary equation of this:
w + x + y + z = 1.0000

Now you have four equations using 4 unknown numbers. Those three ratio equations are convertible to linear equations, so the set of equations forms a fairly simple system of linear equations and should be fairly easily solvable.
 

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