Angular acceleration on a pulley

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The problem involves a mass tied to a string wrapped around a disk, focusing on angular acceleration and the relationship between linear and angular motion. The context includes the mass of the disk, the radius, and the distance the mass falls, with the goal of determining the disk's rotational speed after the mass has fallen a specified distance.

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  • Participants discuss using equations related to torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration. There is mention of energy conservation as an alternative approach. Questions arise regarding the relationship between angular acceleration and linear acceleration, as well as the relevance of the angle of rotation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the relationship between angular acceleration and linear acceleration, while others have suggested exploring energy conservation methods. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and explore different approaches without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain values, such as time and change in velocity, which complicates the application of some equations. There is also uncertainty regarding the angle of rotation and its implications for the calculations.

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Homework Statement


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A mass of 6.1 kg tied to a string is wrapped around a disk as shown. If the disk has a mass of 8.2 kg and a radius of 2.3 m, how fast will the disk be rotating when the weight has fallen 7.4 m and was released from rest?
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Homework Equations


Θ = S/R = x/R
Θ = 0.5 α t^2
τ = I α
τ = T R
T = mg - ma
I = 0.5 M R^2

The Attempt at a Solution


These are the equations that my teacher gave me. So far, when i combined them i get this...

α = τ/I = T R / 0.5 M R^2 = (mg - ma) R / 0.5 M R^2 = (mg - ma) / 0.5 M R

Which, when numbers are substituted in becomes...

(6.1 x 9.81 - 6.1a) / 0.5 x 8.2 x 2.3 = α

but i still do not have acceleration (a) and the equation
a = Δv / t
gives me two other things that i do not have... change in velocity and time. And the equations using theta that he gave me seem almost useless because the value of theta is not given, although it looks as if it is 90 degrees, but i could be wrong. When i calculate theta using x/R i got 3.2174 which i assume is in pi radians, but could just be wrong altogether. Can somebody please just point me in the right direction, help me with some different equations if they are needed, it is the last problem that i need to finish on the homework. Also i believe my teacher may have mentioned there is a way to solve by using energy equations, if that is easier then please help using that. Thanks so much!
 
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Energy is a nice way to solve it. But you've already done most of the work in using the method of forces and torques. All you need is another relation between α and a. I bet you've covered that relation. It's similar to the equation s = Rθ.
 
is the equation i am looking for α = a/R ?
 
Yes, that's it.
 
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TSny said:
Yes, that's it.
Thanks so much! You have no idea how much i appreciate it!
 
Another way to solve is by conservation of energy:-

loss in G.P.E. of box = gain in K.E. of box + gain in K.E. of Disc.

## mgh=\frac{1}{2} mv^2 + \frac{1}{2} I\omega^2\ ##
## \omega\ ## is clockwise
and for no slipping ## v=r \omega\ ##
 

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