Angular momentum of a rod rotating about an axis

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The discussion centers on calculating the angular momentum of a rod rotating about the z-axis, with particular focus on deriving the inertia matrix. Participants analyze the moments of inertia for different segments of the rod, addressing calculations for segments A, B, and C, while correcting errors in their initial assessments. There is confusion regarding the application of the parallel axis theorem and the correct distances to use for the inertia calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately determining the distances from the axis of rotation and the need to clarify assumptions about the rod's radius. Ultimately, the total moment of inertia about the z-axis is calculated, leading to a final expression that accounts for the contributions of all segments.
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I'll provide a picture for clearer understanding. The problem is to calculate the angular momentum of the rod rotating about the z-axis. I have serious difficulties in deriving the inertia matrix, that's all I need help with.



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Since the rod is rotating about the z-axis ##\Rightarrow \omega _{x}=\omega _{y}=0## the angular momentum simplifies to

## \boldsymbol{L}_{O}=-I_{xz}\omega _{z}\hat{\mathbf{i}}-I_{yz}\omega _{z}\boldsymbol{\hat{j}}+I_{zz}\omega_{z}\boldsymbol{\hat{k}} ##

Split the rod in three parts (SEE FIGURE) and calculate for each body.

I have correct terms for body A.

For B:

##I_{xz}=\overline{I}_{xz}+md_{x}d_{z} = 0 +\rho b(0)(\frac{b}{2})=0##
##I_{yz}=\overline{I}_{yz}+md_{y}d_{z} = 0 +\rho b(b)(\frac{b}{2})=\frac{1}{2}\rho b^3##
(Wrong)##I_{zz}=\overline{I}_{zz}+md^2 = 0 + (\rho b)(b^2+(\frac{b}{2})^2)=\frac{5}{4}\rho b^3## (d is distance from midpoint of B to origin O)

For C:

##I_{xz}=\overline{I}_{xz}+md_{x}d_{z} = 0 +\rho b(\frac{b}{2})(b)=\frac{1}{2}\rho b^3##
##I_{yz}=\overline{I}_{yz}+md_{y}d_{z} = 0 +\rho b(b)(b)=\rho b^3##
(Wrong)##I_{zz}=\overline{I}_{zz}+md^2 = \frac{1}{3}(\rho b)(b^2)+(\rho b)((2b^2)^2+(\frac{b}{2})^2)=\frac{55}{12}\rho b^3## (distance d is from midpoint of C to origin O)
 
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Curious, why is Ibar_zz = 0? are you treating the radius to be zero? if that's the case then your md^2 term should be rho(b)(a^2) as a is the distance from the z axis. If you aren't taking the segment to have 0 radius, then Ibar_zz should be non zero, and your term for md^2 should be rho(b)(a+radius_b)^2, not (b^2 + b/2 ^2)

Follow that logic through with C. (how far is it from the z axis?)
Also I believe you want 1/12 mr^2 for that rod, maybe not, I'm not up to par on moments of inertia, but I'm pretty sure a rod pivoted about one end is 1/12 mr^2.

But using the parallel axis theorem is the right place to start.
 
I think that since it is not mentioned about any radius we can safely assume it to be zero. What distance? The perpendicular distance? Or using Phytagorean ?

I think this is slighly better but still wrong..

For B:

##I_{zz}=\overline{I}_{zz}+md^2 = \frac{1}{3}(\rho b)(b^2)+(\rho b)(b^2+(\frac{b}{2})^2)=\frac{19}{12}\rho b^3 ##. I am not sure whether distance d is from the midpoint of B and or just the vertical distance because it is still wrong!

For C:

Correct it should be ##\frac{1}{12}(\rho b)(b^2)## since the distance of the mass particles to the axis varies. Still wrong..
 
Oh wait, I didn't read the picture carefully enough. Replace all the a's with b's in the md^2 term
 
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Ok, so for A, it's cut and dry, \frac{1}{3} \rho b^3because[(mb^2)=(\rho b)b^2]
B, you have no moment before the axis shift, which leaves \rho b^3 after the shift
C you have \frac{1}{3} mb^2 + md^2 = \frac{4}{3} \rho b^3

I don't know where you're getting this \frac{b}{2} term from.

Your total I about the z axis should be \frac{1}{3} \rho b^3 + \rho b^3 +\frac{4}{3} \rho b^3 = \frac{8}{3} \rho b^3

The only thing that's throwing me for a loop is the C chunk, it's not rotating like a bar with one end on the axis... do you see what I'm saying? So this solution may or may not be good...
 
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