Angular momentum operators and eigenfunctions

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The discussion revolves around the properties of angular momentum operators and their eigenfunctions in quantum mechanics. Participants are examining specific wavefunctions and their behavior under the action of the angular momentum operator Lz.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to verify whether certain wavefunctions are eigenfunctions of the Lz operator by substituting them into the operator and analyzing the results. Some participants question the implications of the symmetry of the wavefunctions and their dependence on spherical polar coordinates.

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Participants are exploring the properties of the wavefunctions, with some guidance provided on the implications of symmetry and the nature of eigenvalues. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges in converting wavefunctions to spherical polar coordinates and the requirements of the exercise.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the conversion of wavefunctions into spherical polar coordinates, as well as the specific requirements of the exercise concerning the operator and wavefunctions.

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I have tried inserting the first wavefunction into Lz which gets me 0 for the eigenvalue for the first wavefunction. Is this correct?

For the second wavefunction, I inserted it into Lz and this gets me -i*hbar*xAe^-r/a which is not equal to an eigenvalue*Ay*e-r/a, although I am not sure if this is the correct justification.

Any help is much appreciated, thank you.
 
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Seems right to me.
 
I'm also stuck on how to convert the wavefunctions into spherical polar coordinates, having tried to use the formula for spherical polar coordinates, I notice that the wavefunctions do not depend on the variables phi and theta, so I am unsure on how to approach the first problem.
 
Hello fan, and welcome to PF.

You get 0 for ##\Psi_0## because it is symmetric under rotations around the z axis: there is no angular momentum. So I think you are right. It is an eigenfunction.

For ##\Psi_1## you basically want to show that ##{\bf L}_z \left( \Psi_1 \right ) = L_z\, \Psi_1 ## with ##{\bf L}_z## the operator and ##L_z## an eigenvalue (i.e. a number, possibly complex), has no solutions.

You may assume |A| is not equal to zero (because of the normalization) so the eigenvalue zero is already excluded. So if you multiply the right hand side from the left by ##\Psi_1^*## and integrate, that yields ##L_z##, which is nonzero.

Do the same thing with the lefthand side and show that it does give zero. That way you prove that the assumption that ##\Psi_1## is an eigenfunction leads to a false equation.
 
machofan said:
I'm also stuck on how to convert the wavefunctions into spherical polar coordinates, having tried to use the formula for spherical polar coordinates, I notice that the wavefunctions do not depend on the variables phi and theta, so I am unsure on how to approach the first problem.
With ##z = r\cos\theta## you sure have a theta dependence!
 
But the exercise wants you to write out the z-component of the operator cross product ##{\bf r} \times {\bf p}##, not the wave functions!
[edit] sorry, it wants you to do both. In the first part the Lz, later on the ##\Psi##
 
BvU said:
Hello fan, and welcome to PF.

You get 0 for ##\Psi_0## because it is symmetric under rotations around the z axis: there is no angular momentum. So I think you are right. It is an eigenfunction.

For ##\Psi_1## you basically want to show that ##{\bf L}_z \left( \Psi_1 \right ) = L_z\, \Psi_1 ## with ##{\bf L}_z## the operator and ##L_z## an eigenvalue (i.e. a number, possibly complex), has no solutions.

You may assume |A| is not equal to zero (because of the normalization) so the eigenvalue zero is already excluded. So if you multiply the right hand side from the left by ##\Psi_1^*## and integrate, that yields ##L_z##, which is nonzero.

Do the same thing with the lefthand side and show that it does give zero. That way you prove that the assumption that ##\Psi_1## is an eigenfunction leads to a false equation.

That has really cleared things up, thank you!
 
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