Proving Vector Equality without Dot Product - A Simple Method

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The discussion revolves around proving that four position vectors a, b, c, and d are equal in magnitude given that the lines from O to the midpoints of segments AB, BC, and CD are perpendicular to those segments. The initial approach using the dot product demonstrated that the coefficients of vectors a and b are equal, leading to the conclusion that their lengths are the same. However, this does not imply that the vectors themselves are equal, only that they have the same magnitude. The term a² in the question refers to the square of the modulus of vector a, not the vector itself. The clarification emphasizes the distinction between vector equality and equality of their magnitudes.
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Now on another question, that states four points in space have 4 position vectors a,b,c and d relative to O. The question tells you that the line O to the mid-point of AB, BC and CD is perpendicular to the lines AB, BC and CD respectively. The question is asking for me to prove that therefore a^2 = b^2 = c^2 = d^2. Now I have used that fact that the dot product of the perpendicular lines = 0 which ends up proving that the coefficients of the vectors a and b for example equal each other. But is this proof that the actual vectors equal each other? Is there a better way of doing it without using the dot product? Hope I have explained this well enough.Thanks.
 
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Just to clarify, I substituted a = xi + yj + zk and b = ui + vj + wk and proved that x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = u^2 + v^2 + w^2. Is this proof that therefore a^2 = b^2?
 
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Just to clarify, I substituted a = xi + yj + zk and b = ui + vj + wk and proved that x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = u^2 + v^2 + w^2. Is this proof that therefore a^2 = b^2?
What you have shown is that a and b have the same length.

i.e. |a| = |b| or √{(xi)² + (yj)² + (zk)²} = √{(ui)² + (vj)² + (wk)²}

That was all you were being asked to prove. Not that the vectors were equal to each other.
When the question used a², I think that meant the square of the modulus, or length, of the vector a.
 
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