Approaching a Gorgeous Intelligent Girl in High School

[theJorge551]

Hello everyone, I'm a high school sophomore, and have a small dilemna..i've become very distracted by this gorgeous girl, who appears to be quite intelligent (and happens to be a junior), and have never spoken a word to her in my life. Just wondering how i should tone down my nerd-iness (i sit with a table of nerds and rejects), because she is constantly surrounded by her friends, and don't know how she'd react to someone from a completely different realm approaching her and initiating some sort of conversation..

Also, I've spoken with a friend of hers, who happens to be a nerdy-yet-accepted member of her peers, so i think that may be a window to approaching her?

Any thoughts?

 

[lisab]

You could find out what common interests you have. For example, is she in any clubs that you have an interest in joining? Does she do any sports that you like?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I would not suggest acting any other way than yourself. You may want to consider that she would not be interested in the same things as your peers and so not jump right into a conversation about the merits of star trek over star wars (or vice versa). But you also have to consider what sort of enjoyment you would get out of spending time with someone who is not interested in the things that you are.

If you are yourself when you approach her and she is not interested it is no loss.

 

[theJorge551]

Thank you, StatutoryApe and lisab. As for what Ape has informed me of, I'm much more receptive to the personality of the person I'm interested in, I've had many a relationship in which we've shared few common hobbies or interests (like science, math or the like), so it'll be easy for me to identify a lost cause in that situation.

 

[rootX]

I like this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUZwdbeS2mM

 

[leroyjenkens]

Just wondering how i should tone down my nerd-iness

Don't use the word "quite" quite so much.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I will offer a variation of the advice I gave 27Thousand:

It isn't possible to suddenly acquire the social skills needed to approach a specific girl who has gotten your attention. That would be a miracle akin to figuring out how to solve a specific calculus problem with only the four elementary math operations under your belt.

The only authentically good advice anyone can give you is that you have to become conversant with all the maths leading up to calculus, and then calculus, itself, to solve any given calculus problem.

That is:

You have to make friends with girls, girls in general, girls as a species, first. This is the only way to become comfortable approaching them, especially the hot ones. Give up on any hope of romantic or sexual involvement at first and shoot for baseline comfort in their presence. You have to learn girls well enough to eventually arrive at a point where you're at ease with them, at ease enough around them to comfortably and successfully joke around and tease them just as you can with your male friends.

So:

Make friends with as many girls as possible, and critically observe, up close, how they think, act, interact, and communicate.

If you're friends with a girl you'll be able to see how she interacts with you, interacts with other girls, and, interacts with other guys. You can learn multitudes of useful things. For instance: when you perceive she is attracted to one guy or another you can then start to analyze that guy's behavior and sort out what parts of it are the attractive parts and what aspects are neither here nor there.

If you're not friends with any girls, they'll all just bewilder you, like very attractive but inexplicable alien life forms.

 

[GeorginaS]

I will offer a variation of the advice I gave 27Thousand:

It isn't possible to suddenly acquire the social skills needed to approach a specific girl who has gotten your attention. That would be a miracle akin to figuring out how to solve a specific calculus problem with only the four elementary math operations under your belt.

The only authentically good advice anyone can give you is that you have to become conversant with all the maths leading up to calculus, and then calculus, itself, to solve any given calculus problem.

That is:

You have to make friends with girls, girls in general, girls as a species, first. This is the only way to become comfortable approaching them, especially the hot ones. Give up on any hope of romantic or sexual involvement at first and shoot for baseline comfort in their presence. You have to learn girls well enough to eventually arrive at a point where you're at ease with them, at ease enough around them to comfortably and successfully joke around and tease them just as you can with your male friends.

So:

Make friends with as many girls as possible, and critically observe, up close, how they think, act, interact, and communicate.

If you're friends with a girl you'll be able to see how she interacts with you, interacts with other girls, and, interacts with other guys. You can learn multitudes of useful things. For instance: when you perceive she is attracted to one guy or another you can then start to analyze that guy's behavior and sort out what parts of it are the attractive parts and what aspects are neither here nor there.

If you're not friends with any girls, they'll all just bewilder you, like very attractive but inexplicable alien life forms.

And all of that is excellent advice.

 

[lisab]

I will offer a variation of the advice I gave 27Thousand:

It isn't possible to suddenly acquire the social skills needed to approach a specific girl who has gotten your attention. That would be a miracle akin to figuring out how to solve a specific calculus problem with only the four elementary math operations under your belt.

The only authentically good advice anyone can give you is that you have to become conversant with all the maths leading up to calculus, and then calculus, itself, to solve any given calculus problem.

That is:

You have to make friends with girls, girls in general, girls as a species, first. This is the only way to become comfortable approaching them, especially the hot ones. Give up on any hope of romantic or sexual involvement at first and shoot for baseline comfort in their presence. You have to learn girls well enough to eventually arrive at a point where you're at ease with them, at ease enough around them to comfortably and successfully joke around and tease them just as you can with your male friends.

So:

Make friends with as many girls as possible, and critically observe, up close, how they think, act, interact, and communicate.

If you're friends with a girl you'll be able to see how she interacts with you, interacts with other girls, and, interacts with other guys. You can learn multitudes of useful things. For instance: when you perceive she is attracted to one guy or another you can then start to analyze that guy's behavior and sort out what parts of it are the attractive parts and what aspects are neither here nor there.

If you're not friends with any girls, they'll all just bewilder you, like very attractive but inexplicable alien life forms.

Zooby, you make it sound like he has to use the same approach an anthropologist would use when observing a new tribe .

But I have to agree...that's good advice.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Zooby, you make it sound like he has to use the same approach an anthropologist would use when observing a new tribe .

That's pretty much what he needs to do. By simply asking how he should approach this girl he's red flagged himself as neither speaking the language nor understanding the culture.

On top of that the adoption of a somewhat "removed" attitude of objective observation can free a person of the sweaty palms and pounding heart an attractive member of the opposite sex can elicit. It shifts the focus from hoping they approve of you to observing them, and interacting with them, to see what they're about.

I got that from a zen koan about how to tame a wild horse:

Question: How do you tame a wild horse?

Answer: Watch the horse.

 

[turbo]

Zooby's advice is good. If you have friends who are girls, you are in! They don't have to be the most attractive or the most popular girls around. Girls are natural match-makers, and they will break ice and they will watch your back. Just be honest and dependable, and you are on a fast-track.

Hang with guys, watch from the sidelines, and you are doomed.

 

[cronxeh]

I think you should not go after her.

If you go after her, you either compete with other 'suitors' or will have to change yourself, your friends, and learn things you had no interest in in order to adopt, and even then you may not even be competing on the same level.

On the other hand, if you absorb yourself in yourself, follow your own hobbies and continue the course, perhaps someday you will meet someone really interesting. There is a downside for going after your infatuation. You can become obsessed, depressed, hopeless, and worst yet, irrational.

 

[turbo]

I think you should not go after her.

If you go after her, you either compete with other 'suitors' or will have to change yourself, your friends, and learn things you had no interest in in order to adopt, and even then you may not even be competing on the same level.

On the other hand, if you absorb yourself in yourself, follow your own hobbies and continue the course, perhaps someday you will meet someone really interesting. There is a downside for going after your infatuation. You can become obsessed, depressed, hopeless, and worst yet, irrational.

Don't try, because you will fail? Pretty stupid advice, IMO. Then again, I'm pushing 60 and probably don't have the enlightenment or perspective that a younger person might have.

 

[cronxeh]

Don't try, because you will fail? Pretty stupid advice, IMO. Then again, I'm pushing 60 and probably don't have the enlightenment or perspective that a younger person might have.

Dont patronize me, I speak from experience. High school is the worst time to fall for someone, besides she is going to graduate a year before him. She will go to college and hump everything that moves in her zipcode in first year of school. You want this kid to go through this? You want him to ruin his senior year in high school and not get into college? Guess what, no college girl wants to date a high schooler

 

[rootX]

Dont patronize me, I speak from experience. High school is the worst time to fall for someone, besides she is going to graduate a year before him. She will go to college and hump everything that moves in her zipcode in first year of school. You want this kid to go through this? You want him to ruin his senior year in high school and not get into college? Guess what, no college girl wants to date a high schooler

I have seen a person who felt for a girl during his high school. He was smart and nice but the girl was not. He went to the university but couldn't survive for more than 6 months because of the girl who did not go to the university. So, he dropped out and never completed his degree.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Dont patronize me, I speak from experience.

So do I. I have been shot down by the girl of my dreams about 300 times. (The "girl of my dreams" changed every month or so).

What I learned from this is that there is a direct correlation between a girl sensing you think she is the girl of your dreams and how fast she'll shoot you down. Girls hate it when guys become solicitous, overly fawning, too nice, too needy of their approval.

On the other hand, if you absorb yourself in yourself, follow your own hobbies and continue the course, perhaps someday you will meet someone really interesting.

Yes, "be yourself". However, you have to do that in the context of availability. You can't shut yourself up in a personal bubble hoping girls will come knocking. They won't. Too many guys are always making themselves accessible to girls all the time for girls to go looking under rocks, or venturing over to the nerd table, for good guys. Make friends with a multitude of girls. Then, you might meet someone really interesting some day.

 

[turbo]

Dont patronize me, I speak from experience. High school is the worst time to fall for someone, besides she is going to graduate a year before him. She will go to college and hump everything that moves in her zipcode in first year of school. You want this kid to go through this? You want him to ruin his senior year in high school and not get into college? Guess what, no college girl wants to date a high schooler

I am not patronizing you. Your "advice" is ill-advised and wrong-headed, IMO. A year or two in age at HS may seem huge to immature people, but how does that translate to a couple that are about 30 or 40 years old? Catch a clue! There was a very attractive lady almost 4 years ahead of me that kept singling me out at dances in HS, and I wasn't smart enough to see her as more than a friend. My parents hired her as a babysitter on the rare times when they could afford to go out to a party, etc, and because all my sisters were younger, she and I would stay up late and watch horror movies, etc, and cuddle up on the couch when it was cold.

 

[theJorge551]

Well, thanks for all your (quite interesting if I might say!) responses! I ended up talking to her for a little bit and learned that we have quite a bit of common ground, I didn't have to shed any of what makes me "me" (turns out that she has quite a bit of nerdy tendencies too! Lmao), we'll see how things progress back at school.

on a side note, I think there is a possibility of distancing after graduation, but based on what I've gathered, she wants to go to a university right around where I'll be moving to next summer, and I already planned on going to a university quite close to there as well. Doesn't seem like it will become too much of an issue, in the long haul.

 

[theJorge551]

And to zoobyshoe, I highly appreciate your input, but the main reason why I'm asking for advice in this particular scenario is because I haven't jumped "stereotypes" (much to my loathing of the term) in terms of relationships in quite a while. I have a lot of experience with girls in general, but mainly girls whom I know for a fact already share common ground with me, and I view on a purely friendly level.

 

[GeorginaS]

Dont patronize me, I speak from experience. High school is the worst time to fall for someone, besides she is going to graduate a year before him. She will go to college and hump everything that moves in her zipcode in first year of school. You want this kid to go through this? You want him to ruin his senior year in high school and not get into college? Guess what, no college girl wants to date a high schooler

Emphasis mine.

You realize, cronxeh, you don't know this particular girl or anything about her and yet you feel justified in spewing this sort of derogatory commentary about her. The conclusion I come to from that -- as you don't know the young lady -- is that this is your general opinion of young women. And so, from there, I'll suggest to you that maybe you'd like to examine your misogynistic attitude before offering other people advice about relationships. You might even want to put some thought into it before you become involved with someone and/or maybe take a look at your own relationship if you have one.

 

[GeorginaS]

Well, thanks for all your (quite interesting if I might say!) responses! I ended up talking to her for a little bit and learned that we have quite a bit of common ground, I didn't have to shed any of what makes me "me" (turns out that she has quite a bit of nerdy tendencies too! Lmao), we'll see how things progress back at school.

I'm really glad to hear this. Live your life with as few regrets as possible, and when you're afraid or unsure of approaching new situations, always ask yourself, "What's the potential upside? What's the potential downside?" Ups almost always outweigh the downs. And while all of that sounds trite and cliche, there's frequently a whole bunch of power lurking underneath the surface of the mundane and every day.

And, too, while you're young, fall in love and get your heart broken as often as possible. Then you have a lifetime of stories to take with you.

 

[zoobyshoe]

And to zoobyshoe, I highly appreciate your input, but the main reason why I'm asking for advice in this particular scenario is because I haven't jumped "stereotypes" (much to my loathing of the term) in terms of relationships in quite a while. I have a lot of experience with girls in general, but mainly girls whom I know for a fact already share common ground with me, and I view on a purely friendly level.

It's very good luck she happened to turn out to be the kind of girl you're used to, so it's good you approached her.

If she hadn't been, Jumping Cliques is still a potential superpower available to those who first learn to become comfortable with any and all women.

 

[story645]

If you have friends who are girls, you are in! They don't have to be the most attractive or the most popular girls around. Girls are natural match-makers, and they will break ice and they will watch your back.

Just be careful with this approach, 'cause if the girl thinks you're only using her to hit on her friend, you're going to come across as a jerk. (And if you are just using her to get to her friend, well you are a jerk.) It's also bad if the girl falls for you, but that's just going to lead to standard friend drama.

I didn't have to shed any of what makes me "me"

Congrats, the relationship will be better for that. Seriously, any relationship (including friendships) where you can't be "you" ends up horribly draining.

 

[russ_watters]

I think you should not go after her.

A buddy of mine fawned over a girl for 3 years in high school and never had the guts to ask her out. Instead he was "nice" to her, driving her to school every day, doing favors for her, etc. If he had just asked her out after a few months, she would have squashed him like a bug and he would have been devistated - but then he wouldn't have wasted the next 2-1/2 years being her doormat and perhaps even would have gone after a girl or two who was interested in him!

Guys get crushed. That's how the game works. Better to get crushed for the first time sooner rather than later.

 

[cronxeh]

A buddy of mine fawned over a girl for 3 years in high school and never had the guts to ask her out. Instead he was "nice" to her, driving her to school every day, doing favors for her, etc. If he had just asked her out after a few months, she would have squashed him like a bug and he would have been devistated - but then he wouldn't have wasted the next 2-1/2 years being her doormat and perhaps even would have gone after a girl or two who was interested in him!

Guys get crushed. That's how the game works. Better to get crushed for the first time sooner rather than later.

At that age, women are a distraction. Focus on yourself. Improve yourself, get into the university and learn something about the world around you. You don't have to chase the local fish, or even chase them. Be the big fish, and have them chase you.

And GeorginaS: I don't care for your opinion.

 

[Moonbear]

At that age, women are a distraction. Focus on yourself. Improve yourself, get into the university and learn something about the world around you. You don't have to chase the local fish, or even chase them. Be the big fish, and have them chase you.

And then what happens when he gets to university and STILL has never approached a girl? Seriously, those crushes in high school serve a purpose, and it's good to act on them, learn to be social, learn how dating works (or more often, how it doesn't work). Like everything else good in life, it takes practice and experience before one is good at it.

Of COURSE at that age the opposite sex is a distraction (same thing applies to the girls who are distracted by all the cute boys). The thing is, you're only going to get over that distraction by acting on it. Either dating or getting dumped...either way, it brings the issue to resolution so you're not sitting around pining away. And, when you get crushed in high school, you bounce back, because it was never all that serious in the first place. It helps prepare you to still be able to recover when you're an adult and the stakes get a bit higher in relationships and resulting break-ups.

And, I happen to agree with Georgina that your assumption that the girl is going to head off to university and become promiscuous based on knowing absolutely nothing about her IS misogynistic.

 

[cronxeh]

And then what happens when he gets to university and STILL has never approached a girl? Seriously, those crushes in high school serve a purpose, and it's good to act on them, learn to be social, learn how dating works (or more often, how it doesn't work). Like everything else good in life, it takes practice and experience before one is good at it.

Of COURSE at that age the opposite sex is a distraction (same thing applies to the girls who are distracted by all the cute boys). The thing is, you're only going to get over that distraction by acting on it. Either dating or getting dumped...either way, it brings the issue to resolution so you're not sitting around pining away. And, when you get crushed in high school, you bounce back, because it was never all that serious in the first place. It helps prepare you to still be able to recover when you're an adult and the stakes get a bit higher in relationships and resulting break-ups.

Ok let's break it down. How many dates is sufficient for him to learn this valuable lesson? How many girls does he have to kiss? have sex with? serenade under the moonlight? dance with? chase after? How much effort, give or take, does a teenage boy have to put in order to learn how to be a teenage boy?

Suppose instead he goes to college, in his first year he becomes friends with many girls who he does not immediately perceive as sex objects. Suppose out of a hundred female friends at least one of them is special. So special that he can't see himself being with anyone else.

If given this second scenario, how is the first scenario not a waste of time? How is chasing this high school infatuation, given how serious the downside is, not an irrational decision?

Why don't you guys re-read his original post - he is not a retard. He can approach and talk to women just fine. He is simply not sure how to approach his infuation who he is afraid will perceive him as a nerd and won't have anything in common with. This is not even about the original poster anymore as he clearly decided to dive in according to post #18

 

[DaveC426913]

And GeorginaS: I don't care for your opinion.

Well then you're not going to care for mine either, because it's the same.

You've have illuminated nothing about this unknown girl, but you have said a lot about yourself. You got burned bad.

But your experience doesn't really help the OP. There is a big difference between a personal anecdote and the wisdom to know that an anecdote is specious.

 

[story645]

If given this second scenario, how is the first scenario not a waste of time? How is chasing this high school infatuation, given how serious the downside is, not an irrational decision?

'cause the relationship could not crash and burn from the get go (and it seems like it hasn't), so it's a great experience and he gets to see how it works out from there and gets a good relationship in the process. Why deny himself all that 'cause it may not lead to a happily ever after? (Assuming he doesn't have a moral/religious/social reason not to date her, which is a whole separate ball game.)

So special that he can't see himself being with anyone else.

And maybe he came to that conclusion 'cause he's dated enough girls to not wonder "what am I missing". Everybody's different that way.

 

[theJorge551]

It's very good luck she happened to turn out to be the kind of girl you're used to, so it's good you approached her.

lol, zoobyshoe I could only dream that she is the kind of girl I'm used to :P although we share certain interests (nothing like physics or mathematics), I find a very "new" attraction because she is a break from the norm...this isn't a hindrance though, we find common ground through other means, and they suit me perfectly as well as her (so it seems)! :)

 

[zoobyshoe]

lol, zoobyshoe I could only dream that she is the kind of girl I'm used to :P although we share certain interests (nothing like physics or mathematics), I find a very "new" attraction because she is a break from the norm...this isn't a hindrance though, we find common ground through other means, and they suit me perfectly as well as her (so it seems)! :)

You mean she's hotter than you're used to?

 

[theJorge551]

At that age, women are a distraction. Focus on yourself. Improve yourself, get into the university and learn something about the world around you.

I'm quite positive that this won't affect my goals, I am an aspiring theoretical physicist currently rigorously teaching myself integral calculus (4-5 years ahead of schedule), and i have my priorities more alligned than most my age. This will NOT be a factor, rest assured. Also, isn't it ridiculously ignorant to assume that women won't be a distraction for someone my age, and that I will actually be able to consciously object to being distracted by them? Haha..

You don't have to chase the local fish, or even chase them. Be the big fish, and have them chase you.

Not sure you realize how difficult this truly is, especially when (and we've established this), women are pretty much the main distraction for students my age.

 

[theJorge551]

You mean she's hotter than you're used to?

Lol, not exactly. Pretty much that her interests that don't quite match mine are a refreshing twist from the hobbies of girls I normally hang out with (she's into forensic science and art, I hang out with manga fans? I think you can see the difference, lol)

 

[zoobyshoe]

Lol, not exactly. Pretty much that her interests that don't quite match mine are a refreshing twist from the hobbies of girls I normally hang out with (she's into forensic science and art, I hang out with manga fans? I think you can see the difference, lol)

I see.

And this:

though, we find common ground through other means, and they suit me perfectly as well as her (so it seems)! :)

obviously means you like the same sexual positions. I also find that when I'm on the same page in bed with a girl other differences lose their importance.

 

[theJorge551]

I see.

And this:



obviously means you like the same sexual positions. I also find that when I'm on the same page in bed with a girl other differences lose their importance.

Lmao, I think you're missing the core of my point, my friend :P that part I won't know for at least a little while, haha...

 

[zoobyshoe]

Lmao, I think you're missing the core of my point, my friend :P that part I won't know for at least a little while, haha...

Sheez, Jorge! First I underestimated you, then I overestimated you. You're just determined to be a moving target.

 

[cronxeh]

Lmao, I think you're missing the core of my point, my friend :P that part I won't know for at least a little while, haha...

What kind of an aspiring theoretical physicist are you there.. As the saying goes, chemical engineers do it in fluidized beds.. You ought to apply theory to practice and get on the thermodynamics of friction on boundary layers, if you catch my drift

 

[GeorginaS]

And GeorginaS: I don't care for your opinion.

Too bad. You might have learned something.

 

[GeorginaS]

Guys get crushed. That's how the game works. Better to get crushed for the first time sooner rather than later.

You know what, Russ? You might be surprised to know how often girls get crushed too. I'd guess and say it's probably pretty even.

 

[Moonbear]

You know what, Russ? You might be surprised to know how often girls get crushed too. I'd guess and say it's probably pretty even.

I think Russ knows that, and was just referring to guys because he's a guy and the OP is a guy and that was what the conversation was about.

 

[turbo]

I think Russ knows that, and was just referring to guys because he's a guy and the OP is a guy and that was what the conversation was about.

Guys crush themselves after the fact, too, when they realize how stupid they were when ignoring ladies (older or younger) that were sending out strong and clear signals.

 

[turbo]

I had an older lady who didn't tell me until after she was married that she had wanted me. She was a cheerleader and a great dancer who paid a lot of attention to me - why would I think I could not get her? Mental block. A couple of my friends' sisters would hang on me and I'd be nice, but not follow through because they were "too young". Guess what? They were both real "lookers" by the time I got well into college and were already spoken for. Sweet ladies with intelligence and poise.

A few years difference in age seems to mean a lot in HS. It means nothing later!

 

[GeorginaS]

I think Russ knows that, and was just referring to guys because he's a guy and the OP is a guy and that was what the conversation was about.

Well, likely he does know that, and I only said that because I've known a few men who seem to believe that women have all of the power in love relationships.

My apologies to Russ.

 

[turbo]

Well, likely he does know that, and I only said that because I've known a few men who seem to believe that women have all of the power in love relationships.

My apologies to Russ.

At least in the 1960s (codger disclaimer!) the women did not have the "power" if they were much younger than than the men. And (in my limited experience) they did not have the "power" over much younger guys unless they got pretty explicit. In my case, I'd hug up my cheerleader buddy every time she grabbed me for a dance, but she would let me go back to the younger crowd each time. If she ever told me that she'd live with her folks and wait for me to graduate, I probably would have tried to graduate ahead of time.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Guys crush themselves after the fact, too, when they realize how stupid they were when ignoring ladies (older or younger) that were sending out strong and clear signals.

Actually, the majority of girls have no idea what constitutes a "strong and clear signal".

Back in the day a girl I knew casually whom I was chatting with over coffee suddenly announced: "I'm spending the night at your place tonight."

THAT is a strong and clear signal.

 

[turbo]

Actually, the majority of girls have no idea what constitutes a "strong and clear signal".

Back in the day a girl I knew casually whom I was chatting with over coffee suddenly announced: "I'm spending the night at your place tonight."

THAT is a strong and clear signal.

That would have been a welcome sign!

 

[zoobyshoe]

That would have been a welcome sign!

Point is: a "strong and clear signal" is explicit. Girls often actually put out a lot of incredibly ambiguous suggestions that they, for some absurd reason, suppose are "strong and clear", and then blame the guys as dull witted if they don't demonstrate the desired reaction.

Another tale from back in the day: girl takes my arm and whispers in my ear, "I want to make love!"

THAT is a strong and clear signal.

 

[rfstanton]

Hello everyone, I'm a high school sophomore, and have a small dilemna..i've become very distracted by this gorgeous girl, who appears to be quite intelligent (and happens to be a junior), and have never spoken a word to her in my life. Just wondering how i should tone down my nerd-iness (i sit with a table of nerds and rejects), because she is constantly surrounded by her friends, and don't know how she'd react to someone from a completely different realm approaching her and initiating some sort of conversation..

Also, I've spoken with a friend of hers, who happens to be a nerdy-yet-accepted member of her peers, so i think that may be a window to approaching her?

Any thoughts?

1. It's your life, don't give up your dreams.
2. You don't ask, you don't get.
3. The first time she abuses you, get it straight or bail.
4. Take it slow. You will change, she will change.
5. Hell, if you think she's that good, go for it!

 

[theJorge551]

Point is: a "strong and clear signal" is explicit.

Another tale from back in the day: girl takes my arm and whispers in my ear, "I want to make love!"

Lmfao, I now have a goal...
But more seriously, I have noticed several subtle (by absolutely NO means "strong and clear") signs from her, though it does take a very trained eye to decipher it. I'll have to keep reading into those signs, lol

 

[turbo]

A year is nothing Jorge. Be yourself.