Archimedes' principle -- Which box will sink first as we add coins....

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Archimedes' principle, specifically focusing on determining which of several boxes can hold the most coins before sinking when placed in water. Each box has the same weight but different dimensions, and participants are exploring the implications of these dimensions on buoyancy and water displacement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are considering the relationship between box volume and buoyancy, questioning whether larger boxes can hold more coins. There is also a thought experiment proposed regarding the simultaneous addition of coins to all boxes, prompting discussions on water displacement and how it affects sinking.

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The discussion is active, with participants engaging in thought experiments and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of water displacement in determining which box will sink first, but no consensus has been reached on the specific outcomes.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem as stated, particularly the condition of adding coins one at a time versus all at once, which may affect their reasoning and conclusions.

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There are five empty box contains with the same weight. The upper side of each boxes are removed. These boxes are floating in a pool of water. Then to each box we put coins slowly one by one. Assuming the box does not tilt. Determine which of the following size of the box (p x l x t) can be filled with most coins before it sinks.

A.) 4 x 4 x 11 cm3
B.) 6 x 6 x 6 cm3
C.) 8 x 8 x 4 cm3
D.) 10 x 10 x 2 cm3
E.) 12 x 12 x 1 cm3

Don't have the answer, but I chose C as the answer. All boxes have the same weight. The box with the larger volume should be able to float better than the other boxes right?
 
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Right.
 
I think it might be a little more complicated than that. Imagen that you add the same amount of coins to all the boxes at once and they all are sinking down. What do you think will happen?
 
andrevdh said:
I think it might be a little more complicated than that. Imagen that you add the same amount of coins to all the boxes at once and they all are sinking down. What do you think will happen?
First off you are changing the problem that says that the coins are added one at a time. However, I will imagine (as you asked me to do) that the same amount of coins are added to all boxes and that they all sink down. What I think will happen (as you said) is that they will all sink down. The point of the problem as stated is that the box that displaces the most water will hold the highest number of coins. Your point is ... ?
 
I was just engaging with the problem through a thought experiment and wondering what will be the difference between long slim boxes and fat low boxes as they sink while they hold the same amount of coins in order to get a better feeling for the problem, but you are right because the volume above the water level actually holds the answer to this problem.
 

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