Art of Electronics Exercise 4.3 Operational inverter

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The discussion focuses on understanding the operational inverter circuit from Figure 4.14, where a switch allows for either inverting or non-inverting amplification with gains of -1 or +1. Participants express confusion about analyzing the circuit as a voltage follower, particularly regarding the behavior of the op-amp's positive and negative inputs when connected. It is clarified that in a follower configuration, the voltage difference between the inputs is zero due to negative feedback, resulting in no voltage across the first resistor. The conversation emphasizes the importance of adapting to unconventional circuit configurations as taught in the referenced material. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of operational amplifier configurations and the learning process involved.
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Homework Statement


The circuits in Figure 4.14 let you invert or amplify without inversion, by flipping a switch. The voltage gain is either +1 or -1, depending on the switch position.
http://tinypic.com/r/2hnql2c/6
http://tinypic.com/r/2hnql2c/6

Homework Equations


Gain for the first image with the switch set to ground is equal to -R2/R1, because it is an inverting amplifier, struggling to identify how to consider the circuit as a follower, because it doesn't look like a typical follower circuit. Unsure how to consider the circuit when the positive and negative terminals are connected.


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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CSOleson said:

Homework Statement


The circuits in Figure 4.14 let you invert or amplify without inversion, by flipping a switch. The voltage gain is either +1 or -1, depending on the switch position.
http://tinypic.com/r/2hnql2c/6
http://tinypic.com/r/2hnql2c/6

Homework Equations


Gain for the first image with the switch set to ground is equal to -R2/R1, because it is an inverting amplifier, struggling to identify how to consider the circuit as a follower, because it doesn't look like a typical follower circuit. Unsure how to consider the circuit when the positive and negative terminals are connected.


The Attempt at a Solution


What is the difference in voltage between the + and - inputs for an opamp in the follower configuration? So what is the feedback current in this configuration? :smile:
 
are the + and - inputs equal, because of the negative feedback loop?
 
so the voltage across the 1st resistor would be 0V because it is V+ - V-
 
CSOleson said:
are the + and - inputs equal, because of the negative feedback loop?

CSOleson said:
so the voltage across the 1st resistor would be 0V because it is V+ - V-

Correct-a-mundo :smile:

Kind of a weird follower, but that's one of the ways that H&H teaches us how to be comfortable thinking about circuits. Have you seen this thread?

https://www.physicsforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4315656

:smile:
 
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