At 10 m/s, how high is this second hill?

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The problem involves a car coasting from the top of two hills, with the first hill being 60 meters high. The questions focus on determining the speed of the car at the bottom of the first hill and the height of a second hill when the car reaches the bottom at a speed of 10 m/s, assuming no friction.

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, specifically the equations relating potential energy and kinetic energy. There is an attempt to solve for the height of the second hill using the given speed, with some confusion regarding the correct manipulation of the equations.

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Some participants provide feedback on calculations, pointing out errors in the application of the equations. There is ongoing clarification regarding the correct approach to solving for height, with multiple interpretations of the calculations being explored.

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Participants express uncertainty about the proper use of units and the squaring of terms in their calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the final answer is in the correct units of measurement.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a car starts coasting from the top of a hill that is 60m high. (a)How fast will it be going at the bottom of the hill if there is no friction? (b) For the same car starting at the top of another hill and reaching the bottom, without friction, at 10 m/s, how high is this second hill?


Homework Equations


(a) mgh= 1/2mv^2
(b) mgh = 1/2mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution


(a) I solved as v= 34.29 m/s^2
(b) mgh-1/2mv^2 m cancel each other out, then /g making the equation
h= (1/2)(g)(v^2)
I end up with h= (1/2)(9.8 m/s^2) (10 m/s^2)= 490m. I'm not sure if I am using the information given correctly.
 
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You're doing fine, but you multiplied by g instead of dividing by it.
 
oh, sorry, h= (1/2)(10 m/s^2)/(9.8 m/s^2)= 5.10? Does that look right? Am I supposed to divide 0.5 x 10 x 10 then/ 9.8 or is it 0.5 x 10 (don't square)/9.8? It seems like the 10 is squared and the 9.8 has the seconds squared.
 
deanine3 said:
oh, sorry, h= (1/2)(10 m/s^2)/(9.8 m/s^2)= 5.10? Does that look right?
yes, 5.1 meters
Am I supposed to divide 0.5 x 10 x 10 then/ 9.8
yes
or is it 0.5 x 10 (don't square)/9.8?
no
It seems like the 10 is squared and the 9.8 has the seconds squared.
Sometimes it's best to leave off the units when doing the math, then add them back in at the end. You have
[tex]h = 1/2(v^2)/g[/tex] which is [tex]h = 1/2(10)(10)/9.8 = 5.1[/tex]
the units are [tex][(m/s)(m/s)]/[m/s^2] = [m^2/s^2][(s^2)/m] = m[/tex](the height must be in length units, i.e. meters).
 

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