# Atwood's fall machine w. sylinder (again?)

1. Apr 18, 2010

### center o bass

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Atwood’s fall machine consists of two weight of mass m1 and m2 attached with a massless
rope running around a spinning wheel of mass M and radius R without slipping. The spinning wheel is attached at its center and rotates around an axis through its center without friction.

Find velocity of each of the weights as a function of their vertical positions.

2. Relevant equations
E = constant

3. The attempt at a solution
I'm assuming that one m1 < m2 so that the system will accelerate in the direction of where m2 is hanging.

I'm sure I should be using energyconsideration here, but the only thing I'm not sure how to attack is the fact that we have two masses on each side of the wheel. What is then my total potential energy to start with? I tought about focusing my attention on the center of mass, but then I don't see how I get the individual velocity of each of the masses.

2. Apr 18, 2010

### tiny-tim

Hi center o bass!
You're only interested in the change in PE …

just add the changes for each mass (one will be positive, and one negative, of course).

3. Apr 18, 2010

### center o bass

I realise that the velocity of each of the masses must be the same. And that kinetic energy therefore goes into each of the masses individually pluss the rotational kinetic energy of the wheel. But I still don't understand how to think about the potential energy... Just sitting there at the same height, they should have a potential energy of mgh each, but then I don't get the correct andswer.

4. Apr 18, 2010

### center o bass

Ah...! You said it ;) Thanks alot!