Average translational kinetic energy of nitrogen molecule

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The discussion centers on calculating the average translational kinetic energy of nitrogen (N2) gas given its moles, volume, and pressure. The user initially used the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) to find the temperature and then applied the formula KE=3/2kT for kinetic energy. There is clarification that for translational kinetic energy specifically, the correct formula is indeed 3/2 kT, as rotational energy is not considered in this context. The conversation emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between total kinetic energy and translational kinetic energy in diatomic gases. The final consensus confirms that the average translational kinetic energy is correctly calculated using the formula 3/2 kT.
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2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4 10-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7 105 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

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2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?
 
physics4u said:
2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?

the *total* kinetic energy due to translational motion is 3/2 NkT

you have solved for the kinetic energy of a typical molecule. which is what you want.
 
physics4u said:
2.0 moles of nitrogen (N2) gas are placed in a container whose volume is 8.4e-3 m3. The pressure of the gas is 4.7e5 Pa. What is the average translational kinetic energy of a nitrogen molecule?

So I used PV=nRT and solved for T, after solving for Temperature, I used KE=3/2kT and solved for the total kinetic energy. Now is this my final answer or are there more steps to this problem?

For a diatomic gas, you should use 5/2 KT.
 
Shooting star said:
For a diatomic gas, you should use 5/2 KT.

mmm... no, he/she used PV=nRT to solve for the temperature which holds for any kind of ideal gas, be it composed of molecules or not... cf. Landau + Lif****z Stat Mech Volume I, section 42. then the translational kinetic energy is just 3/2 kT. cheers.
 
Quite right upto the point of finding T. But after finding T, he/she has used E_av = 3/2 KT, which will be true for point masses with only 3 degrees of freedom. The rotational energy is being neglected. So, E_av = 5/2 KT will give the correct answer.
 
but the question in the original post asks only for the average *translational* kinetic energy.
 
OK, I missed the "translational". In that case, it should be 3/2 KT. Thanks.
 
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and what is K? is that the same as nr?
 
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