Beetle on a Pendulum Homework: Solving Displacement & Speed

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics homework problem involving a beetle on a pendulum. For part A, the distance traveled by the beetle along the pendulum's path was correctly calculated as 127.584 cm. In part B, the displacement was initially miscalculated, but clarification led to the realization that the Law of Cosines is appropriate for finding the displacement in this isosceles triangle scenario, yielding a correct value of approximately 124.6104 cm. Part C confirmed the beetle's speed at 561 cm/s when the pendulum swings at 3.3 rad/s. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding triangle properties and appropriate mathematical laws for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement



A beetle takes a joy ride on a pendulum. The string supporting the mass of the pendulum is 170 cm long.

A) If the beetle rides through a swing of 43 degrees, how far has he traveled along the path of the pendulum?

B) What is the displacement experienced by the beetle while moving through the same angle 43 degrees?

C) If the pendulum at some instant is swinging at 3.3 rad/s, how fast is the beetle traveling?

Homework Equations



theta = s/r

The Attempt at a Solution



A) 43/360 * (2pi * 170) = 127.584 cm - correct

B) s = r(theta)

s = 170 x 43(pi/180) = 127.584 cm - incorrect

C) theta = s/r

3.3 = s/170

s = 561 cm/s - correct

I don't know what I did wrong for part b. Perhaps I am supposed to multiply by pi/360?
 
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For displacement, imagine an arrow drawn from the starting position to the final position. What's the length of that arrow?
 
Doc Al said:
For displacement, imagine an arrow drawn from the starting position to the final position. What's the length of that arrow?

sin43 = x/170

x = sin43 x 170

x = 115.9397
 
I don't think its a right angle triangle. Maybe cosine rule? :smile:
 
I think it might be a right angle because we are taking the angle measurement from the rest position and if I draw and arrow to the right and connect the hypotenuse (170 cm) then the angle turns out to be 90 degrees on the bottom with a 43 degree angle on top.
 
Warmacblu said:
I think it might be a right angle because we are taking the angle measurement from the rest position and if I draw and arrow to the right and connect the hypotenuse (170 cm) then the angle turns out to be 90 degrees on the bottom with a 43 degree angle on top.
It's not a right triangle; it's an isoceles triangle with the long sides equal to the length of the string. Hint: Law of sines.
 
Doc Al said:
It's not a right triangle; it's an isoceles triangle with the long sides equal to the length of the string. Hint: Law of sines.

I looked up the law of sines and law of cosines and I think the law of cosines would be easier to use:

c2 = a2 + b2 – 2abcosC

c2 = 1702 + 1702 - 2*170*170*cos(43)

c = 124.6104

Does that seem okay.
 
Looks good.

Using the law of sines, it's just: 170/sin(68.5) = x/sin(43)
 
Doc Al said:
Looks good.

Using the law of sines, it's just: 170/sin(68.5) = x/sin(43)

Thanks for the help.
 
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