Bending of Light in diffraction? Is it actually possible?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of light bending in diffraction, exploring both classical and quantum perspectives. Participants examine the nature of light's behavior near edges and slits, questioning how these effects can be explained within the frameworks of geometric optics and quantum physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that light behaves as a probability function, taking multiple paths and resulting in bent trajectories when interacting with edges.
  • Others argue that the bending of light can be explained through geometric optics, where light rays are perpendicular to wavefronts, leading to apparent bending in diffraction patterns.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the explanation provided by geometric optics, suggesting that light does not actually bend but appears to do so during diffraction.
  • Another participant references quantum mechanics, stating that the apparent bending is a result of the uncertainty principle, where knowing the position of photons at the slit leads to uncertainty in their momentum, causing varied trajectories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of light bending in diffraction. There are competing views regarding the explanations from geometric optics and quantum mechanics, with some participants seeking further clarification on these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in understanding the relationship between classical and quantum explanations of light behavior, particularly regarding the definitions and implications of bending in the context of diffraction.

Aurghyadip Kundu
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I know light has wave particle duality, I understand these two points very well,
1. Light moves as a probability function, taking all the possible paths at once. The alternate paths cancel themselves out, resulting in a particle-like combined motion.

2. When relatively close to an edge, some paths will collide in the edge and their opposing pairs are thus not annihilated and continue at bent trajectories around the edge.

What I really want to know is, are those bent trajectories actually possible?
The gravitational pull of the Earth is not enough for the photons to take up a bent trajectory like a rock thrown. So, how can we explain this bent trajectory?
 
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A. Neumaier said:
This is explained through geometric optics, applied to the wave fronts of the diffracted wave.
See the corresponding wikipedia article:
Thank you for your reply.
I don't understand how we can explain that with the help of geometrical optics, I am asking for a bit elaborate answer. As light can not actually bend but, in diffraction phenomenon, light seems to be apparently bending.
I gave the article a read, could not find what I was looking for(That is, the diffraction phenomenon in quantum physics). It would be very helpful if you could quote that here.
 
Aurghyadip Kundu said:
Thank you for your reply.
I don't understand how we can explain that with the help of geometrical optics, I am asking for a bit elaborate answer. As light can not actually bend but, in diffraction phenomenon, light seems to be apparently bending.
I gave the article a read, could not find what I was looking for(That is, the diffraction phenomenon in quantum physics). It would be very helpful if you could quote that here.
I had quoted the piece that is relevant. Light has a wave nature, which bend, and light rays are perpendicular to all light fronts. In a diffraction experiment, this leads to bent rays at the fringes.
 
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Aurghyadip Kundu said:
As light can not actually bend but, in diffraction phenomenon, light seems to be apparently bending.

Here is the quantum answer to diffraction:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/quant-ph/papers/0703/0703126.pdf

As you can see no 'bending' involved. The apparent 'bending' is simply the uncertainty principle at work. At the slit you know its position so its momentum is unknown and after the slit can go off in all sorts of crazy directions.

Thanks
Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Here is the quantum answer to diffraction:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/quant-ph/papers/0703/0703126.pdf

As you can see no 'bending' involved. The apparent 'bending' is simply the uncertainty principle at work. At the slit you know its position so its momentum is unknown and after the slit can go off in all sorts of crazy directions.

Thanks
Bill
Thanks Bill.
Thanks a lot. I was precisely finding this.
 
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