Bicycle Wheel Friction: Average Torque Calculation

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The problem involves calculating the average torque due to friction on a bicycle wheel that comes to a stop after a certain period. The wheel has specified dimensions and mass, and the discussion centers around the physics of rotational motion and friction.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of rotational inertia and the application of torque equations. Some question the assumption of linearity in the torque force over time, while others suggest reconsidering the formula for rotational inertia based on the wheel's mass distribution.

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The discussion has seen various attempts to clarify the calculations involved. Some participants have offered insights into the nature of friction and its relationship with velocity, while others have proposed adjustments to the original poster's approach. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been provided regarding the assumptions made in the calculations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of rotational dynamics, particularly in relation to the assumptions about friction and the distribution of mass in the wheel. The original poster expresses confusion about where to incorporate time in their calculations.

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A bicycle wheel, of radius 0.330 m and mass 2.00 kg (concentrated on the rim), is rotating at 4.12 rev/s. After 48.0 s the wheel comes to a stop because of friction. What is the magnitude of the average torque due to frictional forces?

First I did
I = (1/2)(mr^2) = (1/2)(2kg)(0.330^2 m) = 0.1089 kg m^2

Then i used the equation
Torque = I*alpha = (I)(omega)/(time)
=((0.1089 kg m^2)(4.12 rev/s x 2pi rad/rev))/(48 s)
=0.0587 N m

however i am getting this question wrong. what am i doing wrong?
 
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just a quick thought that your methods seem to be assuming that the torque force is changing linearly with respect to time. My quick thought says that probably isn't right (usually fiction effects are thought to be proportional to velocity, and probably that isn't linear with respect to time. Does this help you think about the problem differently?
 
sorry, i still don't get it.
i don't know where else i would put time in
 
kbyws37 said:
sorry, i still don't get it.
i don't know where else i would put time in
Try using I as mr^2, not mr^2/2. The rotational Inertia of a thin hoop is mr^2, which is the case here since all the mass is concentrated along the rim..
 
thank you so much! i got it!
 

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