Binary system of stars (##\alpha## - centauri)

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The discussion revolves around the binary star system of Alpha Centauri, focusing on calculating the masses and luminosities of the stars based on their separation and revolution period. The problem involves applying Newton's laws and understanding the relationship between mass and luminosity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using Newton's law to relate the stars' masses and their orbital characteristics. There is an attempt to apply the center of mass definition to find individual masses. Questions arise regarding the correct conversion of angular measurements and the need for additional equations to separate the masses.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different methods to approach the problem, including the use of the center of mass definition and the implications of angular measurements. Some guidance has been provided regarding the conversion of units, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential errors in the initial setup regarding the separation distances, and participants are navigating the implications of these corrections. The discussion reflects the constraints of the problem as it relates to homework expectations and the need for detailed work to support claims.

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Homework Statement


##\alpha##-Centuary is in a binary visual system with another star. Their separation, from their CM, is 8.0'' and 9.7''. The distance from the Earth is 1.31pc. Their revolution period around the CM is 80.1 years. I have to find masses and luminosities for each star.

Homework Equations


Third Newton's law: ##\omega^2 = \frac{G(M_1+M_2)}{a^3}##

The Attempt at a Solution


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With the help of this picture I can calculate ##a=1.7''\times1.31pc##. Then I can solve this system of equations:
$$\omega^2 = \frac{G(M_1+M_2)}{a^3}$$
$$\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T}$$
In this way I find only ##M_1+M_2##. I need another equation but I do not find it.
For the luminosity I can use the scaling relation that ##L\propto M^4##. However, firstly I need to find ##M_1## and ##M_2## separately.
 

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Sorry but I have noticed that I had switched the separations from the CM. I put 9,7'' on the shorter segment and viceversa, but it is not a problem since I have used the sum.
 
Maybe I have an idea: I can use the definition of CM.
$$M_1\times r_1=M_2\times r_2$$ with ##r1=1,31pc\times 9.7''## and ##r_2=1.31pc\times 8''##
I think it is ok, isn't it?
 
You can't just multiply arcseconds by distance to get the angular distance; you have to convert to radians first.
 
tms said:
You can't just multiply arcseconds by distance to get the angular distance; you have to convert to radians first.
Yes, I have implied it, I should have written explicitly, sorry. I have done it and I have found reasonable results, so I think it is ok.
 
Aleolomorfo said:
Yes, I have implied it, I should have written explicitly, sorry. I have done it and I have found reasonable results, so I think it is ok.
You should show your work and the values that you obtained.
 

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