Blocks connected by rope on slope

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A block m1 (10 kg) hangs from a rope over a frictionless pulley connected to block m2 (5 kg) on a 40-degree slope. The tension in the rope and the acceleration of both blocks are the same, leading to the equations m1 * a = -m1 * g + T and m2 * a = -m2 * g sin(40) + T. The derived acceleration is a = (m2 * g sin(40) - m1 * g) / (m1 - m2), resulting in a value of -13.3 m/s², which raises questions about the sign convention used. It is clarified that if m1 accelerates downward, m2 must accelerate upward, and adjusting the sign convention can resolve the confusion. The discussion emphasizes the importance of consistent sign conventions in solving such problems.
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Homework Statement



I just want to confirm this.

A block m1=10 kg is hanging from a rope. the rope is attached by a frictionless pulley to a block m2=5 kg on a frictionless slope with a 40 degree angle from the ground.

Find the tension in the rope and the acceleration of the first block.

Homework Equations



So the tension is the same for both blocks, and so is the acceleration.

m1 * a=-m1 * g + T
m2 * a=-m2 *g sin(40) + T

The Attempt at a Solution



T = m1 * a + m1 * g
T= m2 * a + m2 *g sin(40)

m1 * a + m1 * g = m2 * a + m2 *g sin(40)
(m1 - m2) * a = m2 *g sin(40) - m1 * g

a = (m2 *g sin(40) - m1 * g) / (m1 - m2)
a = -13.3 m/s2

I'm not sure about the negative. Because I set up the problem so - for the first block is down and + is up. and - for the second block is downslope and + is upslope. But if a is the same for both blocks, then it doesn't make sense.

But did I do everything right?
 
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If the acceleration of m1 is down, then the acceleration of m2 must be up. Fix your equations accordingly. (With your sign convention, you can't call both accelerations 'a'.)
 
So would I do a1 and a2 with a1 = - a2 ?

Or do I have to do all the equations over again?
 
superdave said:
So would I do a1 and a2 with a1 = - a2 ?
That should work.

Or do I have to do all the equations over again?
Nope.

The trick I like to use is to guess the most likely direction and call it positive. Here I'd guess that m1 goes down, so I'd say that the acceleration of m1 was 'a' downward. And thus the acceleration of m2 is fixed to be 'a' up the incline. If you guess right, 'a' will turn out to be positive; if you guessed wrong, it will be negative. No worries.
 
Okay, thanks
 
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