Calculate emf and internal resistance with two circuits with the same cell

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromotive force (emf) and internal resistance of a cell connected to resistors in two different circuit configurations. Initially, a 10.0 Ohm resistor shows a potential difference (pd) of 10.43 V, which drops to 7.87 V when a 4.00 Ohm resistor is added in parallel. The user attempts to calculate the total resistance and current but finds discrepancies when applying the internal resistance to the first circuit. Suggestions include using Kirchhoff's laws to set up equations based on potential drops and gains in the circuits. The user is advised to familiarize themselves with Kirchhoff's laws for a more accurate solution.
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Homework Statement


A cell is connected to a 10.0 Ohm resistor. The pd across the 10.0 Ohm resistor is 10.43 V.
A 4.00 Ohm resistor is connected in parallel with the 10.0 Ohm resistor. The pd across the 10.0 Ohm resistor falls to 7.87 V.
Calculate the emf and the internal resistance of the cell.

Homework Equations


E = V + Ir
V = IR

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to work out the total resistance in circuit 2. I got it as 2.86 Ohms. I then tried to work out the current in this circuit and got it as 2.75A. Using the information of volts, current and resistance I used Ohm's Law to try and work out the value of the internal resistor. I got it as 2.85 Ohms. However, when i used this in circuit 1 and tried to work out Emf, the two circuits did not match. Help?
 
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a better way will be to use Kirchhoff's laws

you can find the current in 2 circuits using ohm's law and the potential drop across 2 resistor configuration.
then apply Kirchhoff loop law law and insert value of i in 2 circuits ... you'll get 2 eqn in 2 variables ... which you can solve
 
Thank you for the reply.
I'm doing AS physics and I haven't heard of Kirchhoff's law before.
Which equation would I use?
 
Kirchhoff laws says that net potential drop/gain in any closed circuit is 0

for this ... give any loop a sense of rotation (clockwise or anticlockwise) and take potential drop as negative and potential gain as positive or vice verse

then list all potential drop and potential gain and equate them to 0

check this:
http://www.globalshiksha.com/content/examples-of-kirchhoffs-question
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff's_circuit_laws
 
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