Calculate the coefficient of friction from mass and angle

AI Thread Summary
To determine the coefficient of friction for a 300g object on a 29° incline, the weight is calculated as 2.94 N, and the normal force is found to be 2.57 N. The solution involves using the relationship μ = tan(θ), leading to a coefficient of friction of approximately 0.554. It's important to note that the problem focuses on static friction, as the angle indicates the point at which the object begins to move. Clarifications on the equations for static and kinetic friction emphasize the need for careful application in different contexts.
Physics_Noob
Messages
3
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Determine the coefficient of friction for a surface when the mass of an object is 300g and the angle of incline when the object starts to move is 29°
Distance traveled and acceleration are not provided

Homework Equations


W = mg
Ffric = μN
N = mg cos(θ)
μN = mg sin(θ)

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by drawing a free-body diagram and identified the lines of frictional force, normal reaction force and gravity.

I then calculated the weight:
W = mg
= 0.300 x 9.81 m s-2
= 2.94 N

Not sure on the frictional force as μ is not known

N = mg cos(θ)
= 2.94 N x cos(29)
= 2.57 N

This is where I get stuck as my experience in maths and science is fairly basic.

Could someone please talk me through things a bit please?

Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Physics_Noob said:

Homework Statement


Determine the coefficient of friction for a surface when the mass of an object is 300g and the angle of incline when the object starts to move is 29°
Distance traveled and acceleration are not provided

Homework Equations


W = mg
Ffric = μN
N = mg cos(θ)
μN = mg sin(θ)

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by drawing a free-body diagram and identified the lines of frictional force, normal reaction force and gravity.

I then calculated the weight:
W = mg
= 0.300 x 9.81 m s-2
= 2.94 N

Not sure on the frictional force as μ is not known

N = mg cos(θ)
= 2.94 N x cos(29)
= 2.57 N

This is where I get stuck as my experience in maths and science is fairly basic.

Could someone please talk me through things a bit please?

Thank you.

Think about sticking with the maths. Calculating the normal force doesn't seem necessary.
 
Thank you for the reply PeroK.

I have calculated the answer to be 0.554.

Not overly confident on it being correct. I divided sin(29) by cos(29).

#clutchingatstraws :(
 
Physics_Noob said:
Thank you for the reply PeroK.

I have calculated the answer to be 0.554.

Not overly confident on it being correct. I divided sin(29) by cos(29).

#clutchingatstraws :(

Why do you think that's clutching at straws? If you go back to the relevant equations, can you see how to get:

##\mu = \tan \theta##
 
As you may have guessed, trigonometry is not a strong point for me. I'm really struggling.

From my basic understanding, opposite divided by adjacent = tan(θ)

That is what I was working with.

I also found an explanation that advised to combine, then simplify the equations:
1) N = mg cos(θ)
2) μN = mg sin(θ)

which ends with μ = \frac sin(θ) cos(θ)

Hence my attempt at answering.

Feel so frustrated and useless.
 
Physics_Noob said:
Feel so frustrated and useless.
Why? You used the right equations and got the right answer.
That said, let me clarify some...

First, the question omits to specify you are to find the coefficient of static friction. If it wanted kinetic friction it would need to provide data on acceleration.

Secondly, your equation 2) should properly be two equations:

2a) ##\mu_sN≥F_s## for static friction
2b) ##\mu_kN=F_k## for kinetic friction.
Note the ≥. You can assume equality in the current thread because you are told the angle is the point at which it starts to slip, i.e. when the static friction reaches its limit.

Also note that I specify the frictional forces in the equations as Fk/s rather than "mg sin(θ)". That makes the equations completely general. In other situations the force tending to make the mass slide (i.e. the applied force parallel to the surface) might not be mg sin(θ). I would recommend deleting your equation 2) from your notes and replacing it with 2a) and 2b). Otherwise, you will need to remember that the equation 2) only applies in certain contexts. I see many students go wrong because they forget that.

The same problem arises with equation 1). E.g. if some other force were pushing horizontally on the block then the normal force between block and plane would not be mg cos(θ).
 
  • Like
Likes PeroK
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'Collision of a bullet on a rod-string system: query'
In this question, I have a question. I am NOT trying to solve it, but it is just a conceptual question. Consider the point on the rod, which connects the string and the rod. My question: just before and after the collision, is ANGULAR momentum CONSERVED about this point? Lets call the point which connects the string and rod as P. Why am I asking this? : it is clear from the scenario that the point of concern, which connects the string and the rod, moves in a circular path due to the string...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top