Calculate the final temperature of the ice cream

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a mixture of liquid nitrogen and liquid ice cream. It involves thermodynamic principles and energy transfer, focusing on the effects of mixing substances at different temperatures and the phase changes that occur. The context includes homework-related problem-solving in a physics or chemistry setting.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem and expresses confusion about how to incorporate the 14% energy absorption from the nitrogen into their calculations.
  • Another participant suggests a method to calculate the total delta H for nitrogen as it warms up, breaking it down into three steps: heating from -205°C to its boiling point, the heat of vaporization, and heating from boiling point to room temperature.
  • This second participant proposes that since only 14% of the nitrogen's energy is absorbed from the cream mixture, this amount would equal the energy released by the ice cream as it freezes.
  • They further detail the steps needed to calculate the delta H for the ice cream, suggesting that it involves two parts: the energy change from liquid at 25°C to solid at its melting point, and from solid at the melting point to the final temperature.
  • A later post provides the missing delta H fusion value for the ice cream, which is 85.272 J/g, indicating that this value should be included in the calculations.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to solving the problem and the steps involved, but there is no consensus on the final temperature calculation or the specific application of the 14% energy absorption factor.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the phase changes and the specific heat values, as well as the dependence on the provided data for calculations. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps needed to reach a final answer.

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Homework Statement


5L of liquid nitrogen @ -205 degree celsius and 1L of liquid ice cream @ 15 degree celsius - they are both mixed. upon mixture nitrogen evaporates and ice cream hardens or freezes. Assuming only 14% of the energy gained by the nitrogen in the process of warming to room temperature (25c) was absorbed from the cream mixture, calculate the final temperature of the ice cream.



Homework Equations


Info for Nitrogen:
density = .807g/ml
boiling point N = -195.8c
melting point = -210c
delta H vaporation=199.1 J/g
specific heat of liquid N=1.04j/g*c

Info for Ice cream
density- 1.032g/ml
melting point=-.540c
boiling point=100.17c
specific heat liquid=3.93J/g*c
specific heat solid=2.042J/g*c

(c= degree celsius)


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that they both have to reach a equilibrium and i can carry out the problem from there but the 14% and room temp are throwing me off, how do i use that info?

T(final) = (Mn*S*Tinitial n - Mc*S*Tinitial c)/(-Mn*S+Mc*S)
s=specific heat
Mn= mass of nitrogen
T=temp
c=ice cream

is there anything wrong that I am doing in this equation? please reply ASAP
thnx
 
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wicked problem

from what I can see there are 2 parts:

1. calculate delta H for the nitrogen as it warms up = delta H (absorbed)

this involves 3 steps

a) from -205c to boiling pt N2 \
b) heat of vap of N2
c) from boiling pt to room temp

this is total delta H for N2 = a + b + c

2. since the N2 got only 14% of its energy from the cream mixture, then (this might be a leap) 14% of the total delta H for N2 would be the energy that the cream released as it became ice-cream

so that 14% of total delta H for N2 = delta H of ice-cream

this has 2 steps

d. delta H (liquid at 25C--> solid at mp)
e.delta H (solid at mp --> s at final t)


delta H ice-cream = d + e

you should be able to get d) from your data, you have the delta H of ice-cream, solve for e and final T


usually there is a term for delta H fusion (melting) and that is not given here, but since ice-cream is not a pure-substance, it may not be needed

p.s. watch your signs as you work this out
 
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srry i forgot to post the delta H fusion of ice cream is 85.272J/g
 
karr said:
srry i forgot to post the delta H fusion of ice cream is 85.272J/g

well there you go then, add that into the delta H of the icecream
 
thank you so much, u r great!
 

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