Calculating Angular Momentum and Torque for a Particle in the XY Plane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular momentum and torque for a particle in the XY plane, given its position, velocity, and the force acting on it. The problem involves vector components and cross products to derive the required quantities.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of vector components for position, velocity, and force. There is an exploration of the use of cross products to find angular momentum and torque. One participant questions the necessity of using components of the position vector.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty about their approach. A suggestion was made to consider only the perpendicular components of the vectors in relation to angular momentum and torque. The discussion appears to be moving towards clarification of the correct method.

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There is a mention of potential mistakes in the calculations and the need to focus on specific vector components, indicating that participants are grappling with the application of vector analysis in this context.

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Homework Statement


At the instant of Fig. 11-42, a 6.60 kg particle P has a position vector \stackrel{\rightarrow}{r} of magnitude 3.80 m and angle θ1 = 42.0° and a velocity vector \stackrel{\rightarrow}{v} of magnitude 9.70 m/s and angle θ2 = 33.0°. Force \stackrel{\rightarrow}{F}, of magnitude 8.20 N and angle θ3 = 30.0° acts on P. All three vectors lie in the xy plane. About the origin, what are the magnitude of (a) the angular momentum of the particle and (b) the torque acting on the particle?

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Homework Equations


\tau = r x F
l = r x p = m (r x v)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the x and y components of r and v.
I used those in the 2nd equation above to solve for l which is angular momentum.
Then I used the 1st equation to solve for torque.
I found the x and y components of F and solved for torque.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong here.
I used cross product as indicated. =/
 
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Please show your calculations.
 
rcosΘ = 3.80cos(42)
rsinΘ = 3.80sin(42)

vcosΘ = 9.7cos(33)
vsinΘ = 9.7sin(33)

L = M (R x V)
Lx = (6.60) (3.80cos(42)) (9.7cos(33))
Ly = (6.60) (3.80sin(42)) (9.7sin(33))
L = \sqrt{Lx^2 + Ly^2} = 223

FcosΘ = 8.20cos(30)
FsinΘ = 8.20sin(30)
T = R x F
Tx = (3.80cos(42)) (8.20cos(30))
Ty = (3.80sin(42)) (8.20sin(30))
T = \sqrt{Tx^2 + Ty^2} = 28.3
 
Is it necessary to the components r?
Take the components of V and F parallel and perpendicular to r.
Only perpendicular components will contribute to angular moment and torque.
 
Oh okay I see my mistake now.
Thank you very much =]
 

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