Calculating Final Speed: Electrons & Potential Difference

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Electrons accelerated through a potential difference of 250,000 V yield a classical final speed of approximately 2.96 x 10^8 m/s. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the relativistic calculation, with attempts leading to incorrect results near the speed of light. Participants emphasize the need to relate kinetic energy to electric potential and to use the correct form of relativistic kinetic energy involving momentum. The final relativistic speed calculated was 2.22 x 10^8 m/s, prompting questions about the accuracy of the calculations. Proper understanding of the equations is essential for determining the final speeds accurately.
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Homework Statement



Electrons are accelerated from rest through a potential difference of 250000 V. What is the final speed predicted classically?

What is the final speed predicted relativistically?

Homework Equations



KE=0.5mv^2
KE=mc^2-m0c^2

The Attempt at a Solution



a.2.96×108 m/s

b. I keep ending up with the speed of light which I know is incorrect...for m I know I use m0/sqrt (1-v^2/c^2) so the final equation is KE which I found to be 4.005e-14 J= m0/sqrt (1-v^2/c^2)*c^2 -m0c^2
 
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Your working equations are incomplete.

1. Yes, that's the correct classical kinetic energy, but how does that relate to an electric potential difference V?

2. Yes, that's the correct equation for relativistic kinetic energy, but you'll need it in a form that include relativistic momentum, since you need to compare the two speeds. After all, the equation as you have it written down doesn't allow us to solve for the electron's speed (it just includes masses and the speed of light).
 
NikkiNik said:
b. I keep ending up with the speed of light which I know is incorrect...for m I know I use m0/sqrt (1-v^2/c^2) so the final equation is KE which I found to be 4.005e-14 J= m0/sqrt (1-v^2/c^2)*c^2 -m0c^2

I came up with 2.22 * 10^8 m/s. Are you sure you calculated correctly?
 
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