Calculating Force (magnitude and direction) on a proton

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The discussion centers on calculating the force on a proton due to an electron and an alpha particle, with a focus on determining the correct angle of this force. A participant consistently calculates the angle as 82 degrees, while the expected answer is 68 degrees below the x-axis. They have computed the forces between the proton and the other charges, yielding values of 2.1e-8 N and 3.5e-8 N, and derived their x and y components. Another participant suggests reviewing the calculations of the x and y components, hinting at a possible mix-up in their values. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately interpreting the diagram and vector addition in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Diagram shows the separations of a proton, electron, and α particle (charge +2e). What is the force (magnitude and direction) on the proton?


Homework Equations


Addition of vectors, Coulomb's law


The Attempt at a Solution



I keep getting 82 degrees but the answer is 68 degrees below the x axis
 

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Homework Statement


Diagram shows the separations of a proton, electron, and α particle (charge +2e). What is the force (magnitude and direction) on the proton?


Homework Equations


Addition of vectors, Coulomb's law


The Attempt at a Solution



I keep getting 82 degrees but the answer is 68 degrees below the x axis

It would help if you labelled each of the particles on the diagram, but I suppose we can work out what each of them must be from your desired result :smile:

If you show your work, perhaps we can see where the its going wrong.
 
Sorry about that! Was basing it off memory lol.

okay so i found the force between the charge of positive 2 and the proton to be 2.1e-8 N, and i found the other force to be 3.5e-8 N. then i found the x and y components of the forces, and that was 3.4e-8 and 7e-9, respectively. i then added this to the x component of the first force (since there was so y) and found the angle that they create to be 82 degrees, which is incorrect
 
Obama said:
Sorry about that! Was basing it off memory lol.

okay so i found the force between the charge of positive 2 and the proton to be 2.1e-8 N, and i found the other force to be 3.5e-8 N. then i found the x and y components of the forces, and that was 3.4e-8 and 7e-9, respectively. i then added this to the x component of the first force (since there was so y) and found the angle that they create to be 82 degrees, which is incorrect

How did you calculate the x and y components of the second force? It looks like you've interchanged them. Take a look at your diagram; you should be able to estimate the relative sizes of the x and y components of a given force.
 
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