Calculating phase velocity in a material

[Julle]

Calculating wavelength in a media

Hi

Trying to get how to calculate the wavelength of an electromagnetic wave in a media and I am getting confused about the permittivity.

I know the formula:

v_phase = c/(sqrt(ε_r*μ_r))

where v_phase is the phase velocity.
c is the speed of light in a vacuum.
ε_r is the relative permittivity.
μ_r is the relative permability.

Then to get the wavelength we do like this:

λ = v_phase/f

where λ is the wavelength and f the frequency.

This is all well and good, but isn't there a real and imaginary part to the permittivity? Is only the real part used or is the entire complex number used in which case you end up with a complex distance??

 

[NascentOxygen]

isn't there a real and imaginary part to the permittivity?

I've never heard of it being anything but real? Can you cite something that causes you to think it is a complex number?

 

[Julle]

I've never heard of it being anything but real? Can you cite something that causes you to think it is a complex number?

http://www.random-science-tools.com/electronics/water_dielectric.htm

One of many but shows the principle nicely.

The dielectric constant is for most (all?) dielectric materials frequency dependant and is often written as ε_r=ε'-iε''

where ε' is the real part and is related to the stored energy inside the medium
ε'' is the imaginary part and related to the loss inside the medium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivity