Calculating Power Output for a Cyclist Coasting Down a 7.2 Degree Hill

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A cyclist coasting down a 7.2-degree hill at 10 km/h with a total mass of 75 kg requires a power output calculation to climb the hill at the same speed. The initial calculation yielded 522 Watts, but the expected answer is 511 Watts, prompting a request for clarification on the discrepancy. A participant suggests using the formula Power = Force x Velocity instead of Power = Energy/Time, emphasizing that power represents the rate of energy expenditure. The discussion highlights that while descending, the cyclist's weight component is balanced by friction, resulting in zero acceleration, whereas ascending requires overcoming both friction and gravitational forces. The conversation ultimately focuses on the correct approach to calculating power output for climbing the hill.
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Homework Statement



A cyclist coasts down a 7.2 degree hill at a steady speed of 10 km/h. If the total mass of the bike and rider is 75 kg, what power output must the rider have to climb the hill at the same speed?

Homework Equations



Power = Energy/Time
Ek = 1/2mv^2 where m is the mass v is the velocity and Ek is the kinetic energy
Eg = mgh where m is the mass g is a constant value of 9.8 h is the height above the ground and Eg is the gravitational potential energy.

The Attempt at a Solution



Power = Energy/Time = (Ek + Eg)/Time = [1/2(75)(2.777)^2 + (75)(9.8)(2.7sin7.2)]/1 = 522 Watts

Apparently the answer is 511 Watts. Can someone please tell me where i went wrong?
 
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Whenderson1 said:

Homework Statement



A cyclist coasts down a 7.2 degree hill at a steady speed of 10 km/h. If the total mass of the bike and rider is 75 kg, what power output must the rider have to climb the hill at the same speed?

Homework Equations



Power = Energy/Time
Ek = 1/2mv^2 where m is the mass v is the velocity and Ek is the kinetic energy
Eg = mgh where m is the mass g is a constant value of 9.8 h is the height above the ground and Eg is the gravitational potential energy.

The Attempt at a Solution



Power = Energy/Time = (Ek + Eg)/Time = [1/2(75)(2.777)^2 + (75)(9.8)(2.7sin7.2)]/1 = 522 Watts

Apparently the answer is 511 Watts. Can someone please tell me where i went wrong?

I don't like Power = Energy/time. Power is the rate of expending energy → a change in energy not the energy itself

I would be calculating using power = Force x velocity.

On the way down the hill, clearly the component of weight "driving" the cyclist down the hill is matched by friction - so acceleration is zero - the cyclist travels at constant speed.

On the way up the hill, the cyclist will have to create a driving force to over come each of those - his driving force has to match both friction and weight component.

Force x speed = power.
 
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