Calculating quality factor in a series LCR circuit?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the quality factor in a series LCR circuit, focusing on the relationship between energy stored and energy dissipated during one cycle. The original poster references their tutor's notes and presents their own calculations, which differ from the expected results.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the quality factor using different expressions for maximum energy and energy loss, leading to conflicting results. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the voltage across the capacitor and the definitions used in the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the calculations and questioning the original poster's approach. There is a focus on clarifying the definitions and relationships involved in the quality factor calculation, with some guidance provided on how to correct the computations.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct expressions for maximum energy and energy dissipation, as well as the proper use of voltage in the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to reconcile different approaches and clarify the underlying physics.

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My tutor's notes say that quality factor is supposed to be = 2π (Max. energy stored)/(energy dissipated in one cycle) . So for a standard series LCR circuit, he says:
max energy = 0.5 L I2
energy lost per cycle = 0.5 R I2 2π/ω .
..and at resonance he calculates it to be equal to be \frac{1}{R} \sqrt{L/C} [\tex]<br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> -<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> However, this is how I tried to do it:<br /> max energy = 0.5 C V<sup>2</sup><br /> energy lost per cycle = 0.5 V<sup>2</sup> /R x 2π/ω<br /> ...and at resonance this gives a quality factor of R \sqrt{C/L} [\tex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Erm... what da heck?
 
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I'll post the answers here :
Q from the 1st bit: 1/R x (L/C)^(1/2)
Q from my try: R x (C/L)^(1/2)
 
CrimsonFlash said:

Homework Statement


My tutor's notes say that quality factor is supposed to be = 2π (Max. energy stored)/(energy dissipated in one cycle) . So for a standard series LCR circuit, he says:
max energy = 0.5 L I2
energy lost per cycle = 0.5 R I2 2π/ω .
..and at resonance he calculates it to be equal to be \frac{1}{R} \sqrt{L/C} [\tex]<br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> -<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> However, this is how I tried to do it:<br /> max energy = 0.5 C V<sup>2</sup><br /> energy lost per cycle = 0.5 V<sup>2</sup> /R x 2π/ω<br /> ...and at resonance this gives a quality factor of R \sqrt{C/L} [\tex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Erm... what da heck?
&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; .&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Q = wL/R = 1/wRC, w = 1/sqrt(LC)&lt;br /&gt; Q = 2pi(peak energy stored within one cycle)/(energy dissipated during that cycle.)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Now, about your computation: You are using the wrong V_max across the capacitor to compute max stored energy on the capacitor. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; max V across capacitor = V0/wRC if the driving voltage is V0 cos(wt).&lt;br /&gt; What is dissipation in R in terms of V0?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Take it from there.
 
rude man said:
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Q = wL/R = 1/wRC, w = 1/sqrt(LC)
Q = 2pi(peak energy stored within one cycle)/(energy dissipated during that cycle.)

Now, about your computation: You are using the wrong V_max across the capacitor to compute max stored energy on the capacitor.

max V across capacitor = V0/wRC if the driving voltage is V0 cos(wt).
What is dissipation in R in terms of V0?

Take it from there.

Max Energy: 0.5 C (V/ωRC)2
Energy lost per cycle: V2/2R x 2π/ω
...and this gives the correct value for Q.

Thank you.
 

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