Calculating RoE for AC Equivalent Transistor Amplifiers

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The discussion focuses on calculating the output resistance (roe) for AC equivalent transistor amplifiers, specifically using the 2N2222 transistor's output characteristics. Participants clarify that roe is not related to the change in base current (Ib) but rather to the slope of the output characteristic curve at the quiescent point (Q-point). The relevant parameter is h_oe, which represents the output conductance, with roe being its reciprocal. The output resistance can be calculated using the formula r_oe = 1/h_oe. This clarification helps the original poster understand the correct approach to finding roe in their studies.
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Hey everyone,

In my EET program we're going over AC equivalent transistor amplifiers. We've gone over how to do some of them in class but I can't seem to figure out how to find roe. I have the output characteristic of our 2N2222 transistor and made the DC load line but I'm not sure were to go from there. Am I supposed to take the change in voltage and divide it by the change in Ib (from the Q point)?

Thanks for the help!
 
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I would think that roe would be the ratio of a small change in collector voltage to the small change in collector accompanying it; Ib is not involved. It should be fairly large, as you can see by looking at the characteristic curves; notice how they are almost horizontal.
 
roe is fish eggs.

Perhaps you mean \rho or rho.
 
Integral said:
roe is fish eggs.

Perhaps you mean \rho or rho.

no, i think he means one of the "h-parameters" called h_{oe} (or the reciprocal of it).

where the quiessent point is (the "Q-point") in the IC vs. VCE, the slope of the curve at that point is your h_{oe} parameter. that slope should be pretty small for a decent BJT and is physically a conductance quantity. the reciprocal of that slope is the output resistance of the Norton or Thevenin equivalent of the dependent source that models the transistor.

r_{oe} = \frac{1}{h_{oe}}

that's what i think the OP means.
 
That's it, thanks rbj.

Sorry about the confusion; I didn't realized the formula function on here.
 
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