Calculating Tension of Steel Wire at Different Temperatures

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To calculate the tension of a steel wire at 200 degrees Celsius, the problem involves using Young's modulus and the coefficient of linear expansion. The initial tension at 65 degrees Celsius is 100N, but applying the thermal expansion leads to a calculated compression force of 236N instead of tension. This suggests that the thermal expansion exceeds the original tension significantly. The discussion emphasizes the need to combine both Young's modulus and the coefficient of linear expansion to find the new tension, indicating potential errors in calculations. Accurate application of these principles is crucial for determining the correct tension under varying temperatures.
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Here is the problem:

A steel wire of a radius of 6E-4 is stretched between two concrete blocks. When the concrete and the steel are at 65degreesC the steel has a tension of 100N. what is the tension of the steel at 200degreesC?

I started the problem with using youngs modulus of:

Stress = (F/A) = Y(alpha)(delta T)

When I finished the problem i got a really small tension.

Any suggestions? (Don't just tell me the answer.)
 
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I don't think elasticity is the issue here.

Try coefficient of linear expansion.

Keyword = thermal.
 
After using the coefficient of linear expansion then do i use youngs modulas?
 
You use both together.

Young's modulus will let you get an expression for the change in length due to strain, in terms of Li.

The coefficient of expansion will give you an expression for the change in length due to thermal expansion.

Putting them together should give the new tension.

Only trouble is, when I do it, I end up with the wire under a compression force of 236 N, not tension. Seems to me that the thermal expansion is more than 3 times as great as the original stretching due to the tension. But maybe I made a mistake somewhere. [?]
 
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