Calculating Uncertainty of g in Propagation of Error

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This discussion focuses on calculating the uncertainty of the damping constant g in the context of a damped harmonic oscillation, represented by the equation y = Ae^(-gt). The user seeks to understand how to incorporate uncertainties in amplitude (A) and time (t) into the calculation of g. The proposed method involves using differential calculus to derive the uncertainty in y based on the uncertainties in A and t, leading to the formula dy = e^(-gt) * {(dA)^2 + A^2 (e^(-2gdt) – 2e^(-gdt) + 1)}^(1/2).

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this is regarding propagation of error for a lab i did:

we measured the amplitude of a damped harmonic oscillation over a time period, taking amplitude measurements every 1 second for 14 seconds. when graphed (by excel), the plot has the form of y = Ae^(-gt), where A is the amplitude, t is time and 1/g = the damping time.

how would the uncertainty of g be calculated, if the uncertainties of A and t are known for each measurement?


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i have no idea how to do this.
 
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The effect of an uncertainity in A is simple, if you double A what effect does this have on y ? Similairly if A changed by 10% what effect would this have on y?

T is a bit more complicated but you can always do this experimentally if you can't do the maths.
Calculate y for some value of t, now change t by a small amount and see how y changes.
Do this for a few values and you will see if the change in y is proportional to change in t or some other function.
 
mgb_phys said:
The effect of an uncertainity in A is simple, if you double A what effect does this have on y ? Similairly if A changed by 10% what effect would this have on y?

T is a bit more complicated but you can always do this experimentally if you can't do the maths.
Calculate y for some value of t, now change t by a small amount and see how y changes.
Do this for a few values and you will see if the change in y is proportional to change in t or some other function.

This is what I did. Tell me if I’m wrong:

Let:
y(A,t) = Ae^(-gt)
uncertainty of A = dt
uncertainty of t = dt
uncertainty of y = dt

then:
dy = {[dy1)^2 + [dy2]^2}^(1/2)

such that:
dy1 = y(A + dA, t) – y(A, t)
dy2 = y(A, t + dt) – y(A,t)

dy1 = dA e^(-gt)

dy2 = Ae^(-g(t+dt)) – Ae^(-gt)
= Ae^(-gt-gdt) – Ae^(-gt)
dy2 = Ae^(-gt) [e^(-gdt) – 1]

dy = e^(-gt) * {(dA)^2 + A^2 (e^(-gdt) – 1)^2}^(1/2)

so:
dy = e^(-gt) * {(dA)^2 + A^2 (e^(-2gdt) – 2e^(-gdt) + 1)}^(1/2)
 

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