Can a sequence be arithmatic and geometric?

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A sequence cannot be both arithmetic and geometric in general terms, as they have distinct definitions. However, there are specific cases where a sequence can fulfill both conditions, such as a constant sequence like a, a, a, a, which is both arithmetic and geometric. The discussion highlights that while two sequences can equal each other at certain points, they cannot maintain both properties simultaneously for all n. The formulas for the nth terms of arithmetic and geometric sequences are presented, emphasizing the need for specific constants to satisfy both conditions. Ultimately, the trivial example of a constant sequence illustrates the only scenario where a sequence can be classified as both.
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can a sequence be arithmatic and geometric??

can a sequence be arithmatic an geometric??
 
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tcesni said:
can a sequence be arithmatic an geometric??
Write out the formula for the nth term of each and see if they can be equal for all n for some values for d and r:

a_n = a_1 + d(n-1)

a_n = a_1 r^{n-1}

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Yes, they definitely can be equal.
 
JasonRox said:
Yes, they definitely can be equal.

Did you find one yet?
 
Well, two sequences can equal each other at certain points, but a sequence cannot be both geometric and arithmetic. It be a combination of both of them, no doubt, but then it is not arithemetic nor geometric from my understanding of sequences.
 
Sure they can.
The general n'th term in an aritmetic sequence is
a_{n}=a_{0}r^{n}
whereas the general term in a geometric sequence is:
g_{n}=g_{0}+kn
where a_{0},g_{0},r,k are constants independent of n.
A sequence that is both arithmetic and geometric fulfills BOTH conditions for all choices of n, which means that we must have:
g_{0}+kn=a_{0}r^{n} (*)
That is, we must have g_{n}=a_{n} for all n.
Now, you might fiddle about to find constants a_{0}, g_{0},k,r
so that (*) holds for all n. It can be done. :smile:
 
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Uh, Arildno- you have the definitions of "geometric" and "arithmetic" sequences reversed.
 
The trivial example is 1, 1, 1, 1, which is both arithmetic with respect to 0 (I don't think that's proper terminology, but I'll be damned if it doesn't sound good) and geometric with respect to 1
 
HallsofIvy said:
Uh, Arildno- you have the definitions of "geometric" and "arithmetic" sequences reversed.
Uhmm, blarrg, huge embarassment.
Please tell me when I can take my head out of the bucket. :redface:
 
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Actually, the sequence a, a, a, a, ..., for any a, is both arithmetic (a+ 0n) and geometric (a(1n)). It's easy to show that any sequence that is both arithmetic and geometric must be of the form a, a, a, a, ... for some a.

(You may now remove head from bucket, arildno.)
 
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