Can C5H10O Be Drawn as an Ether?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the structural isomers of the molecular formula C5H10O, specifically focusing on whether it can represent ketones, aldehydes, and ethers. Participants explore the possibility of drawing these structures and the implications of the molecular formula in terms of saturation and structural constraints.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies 3-pentanone and 2-pentanone as ketones and pentanal as an aldehyde for the molecular formula C5H10O.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of drawing an ether with the same molecular formula, noting that their initial drawing resulted in 12 hydrogens.
  • A subsequent reply suggests that removing two hydrogens might be possible, potentially by introducing a double bond.
  • Another participant points out that the formula indicates a lack of saturation, referencing the concept of degree of unsaturation.
  • A final post raises the question of what elements are necessary to form ketones and ethers, and whether both can coexist within the constraints of the given molecular formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether C5H10O can be drawn as an ether, and multiple competing views regarding the structural possibilities remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about saturation and structural definitions, as well as unresolved steps in determining how to represent the ether structure.

Specter

Homework Statement


Sorry for so many questions!

Draw and name all of the structural isomers that are ketones with five carbon atoms in its longest chain and the molecular formula C5H10O . Can this molecular formula also have an aldehyde structure? If so, illustrate and name the aldehyde. Can this be drawn as an ether? Explain.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I drew 3-pentanone and 2-pentanone for the ketones with the molecular formula C5H10O and I drew pentanal for the aldehyde with the molecular formula C5H10O. I can't figure out a way to draw an ether with that molecular formula. The one I drew has 12 hydrogens and 5 carbons. Can it even be drawn as an ether??
 
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Specter said:
The one I drew has 12 hydrogens and 5 carbons.

Can you think of a way of removing two hydrogens?
 
Borek said:
Can you think of a way of removing two hydrogens?
Maybe a double bond somewhere?
 
What elements are required to make a ketone? An ether? Given your molecular formula, can you do both at the same time?
 

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