Carnot Engine ~ Electric Generating station

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rate at which an electric generating station exhausts energy by heat, given its output power of 1.4 MW and a turbine efficiency of two-thirds that of a Carnot engine. The efficiency equation is derived as e=(2/3)(1-(Tc/Th), where Tc is the cooling temperature in Kelvin. Participants express confusion over the relationship between input and output energy, emphasizing the need to apply the first law of thermodynamics, which states Qh = Qc + W. The correct approach involves determining the rate of energy input and using it to find the exhaust energy rate Qc in terms of the combustion temperature Th. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding Carnot efficiency and applying thermodynamic principles accurately.
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Homework Statement



An electric generating station is designed to have an electric output power of 1.4 MW using a turbine with two-thirds efficiency of a Carnot engine. The Exhaust energy is transferred by heat to a cooling tower at 110°C.

a) Find the rate at which the station exhausts energy by heat as a function of the fuel combustion temperature Th

Homework Equations



e= w/Qh=1-Qc/Qh , e_carnot=1-Tc/Th, P=W/t

The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i have been able to figure out so far is e=(2/3)(1-(Tc/Th) Where Tc=383K

I have been struggling with this one for quite some time and humbly asking for your help

The book lists the answer as Qc/Δt=1.4((.5Th+383)/(Th-383))
I am so confused...
 
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Book is right.

What is the efficiency of a Carnot engine as a function of Th and Tc? Then, what is actual Qh and therefore actual Qc? Hint: use 1st law.
 
I'm Sorry I'm still not following you...

Man I feel like an idot.. What am i missing?
 
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Coti1002 said:

Homework Statement



An electric generating station is designed to have an electric output power of 1.4 MW using a turbine with two-thirds efficiency of a Carnot engine. The Exhaust energy is transferred by heat to a cooling tower at 110°C.

a) Find the rate at which the station exhausts energy by heat as a function of the fuel combustion temperature Th


Homework Equations



e= w/Qh=1-Qc/Qh , e_carnot=1-Tc/Th, P=W/t

The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i have been able to figure out so far is e=(2/3)(1-(Tc/Th) Where Tc=383K

I have been struggling with this one for quite some time and humbly asking for your help

The book lists the answer as Qc/Δt=1.4((.5Th+383)/(Th-383))
I am so confused...
If the output power is 1.4 MW what is the rate at which energy is input? Hint: efficiency = output/input = (dW/dt)/(dQh/dt)

Once you get the rate of energy input, given the work output dW/dt = 1.4MW you can calculate the rate of exhaust energy Qc using W = Qh-Qc (i.e. dW/dt = dQh/dt - dQc/dt).

Since efficiency is a function of Th (Tc=110C) you will have a Th in your answer. Be sure to use the Kelvin scale for T.
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Coti1002 said:
I'm Sorry I'm still not following you...

Man I feel like an idot.. What am i missing?

<<What is the efficiency of a Carnot engine as a function of Th and Tc? Then, what is actual Qh and therefore actual Qc? Hint: use 1st law. >>Try to answer those two questions! The first is in your textbook. Call it e.

Then, what does the 1st law say? How about Qh = Qc + W?
For your system, efficiency = 2e/3 = e' so write Qh in terms of W and e'( Th, Tc).
Then, solve for Qc. Realize that the answer to your problem is dQc/dt which will be in terms of dW/dt = P = 1.4MW as well as Th and Tc.

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