Center of mass for rigid body and point particle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the center of mass for a system consisting of a uniform beam and a point particle attached to it. The beam has a length L and mass M, with its center of mass initially at -L/2. When a point particle of mass m attaches itself to the beam at (0, -L, 0), the new center of mass must be recalculated. The proposed formula for the center of mass is R = (-M(L/2) - mL) / (M + m) in the vertical direction, which confirms that as m becomes negligible compared to M, the center of mass approaches -L/2. The discussion highlights the importance of considering the mass of both components in the calculation.
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Hi, this is a problem on center mass.

Homework Statement


A beam hangs straight down from a point O(O is placed at x=0 and y = 0, aka origo). The beam is attached to the point O. Beam has length L and mass M. The density of the beam is uniform, so the centermass of the beam is -\frac{L}{2}\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}}. A point particle with mass m is shot into the beam at (0,-L,0) and latches itself onto the beam in (0,-L,0) so it becomes a part of the beam at that point.

What is the center of mass for the system consisting of the beam and the particle?
(I first thought the center of mass was still at -\frac{L}{2}, but the task does not state anywhere that m<< M).

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The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking of using center of mass for a particle system, but since one of the "particles" is a beam, I assume I cannot use \vec{R} = \frac{1}{M}\Sigma m_i \vec{r}_i. And since I don't know the densitydifference for the point particle nor the beam, I don't think I can use \vec{R} = \frac{1}{M} \int \int \int \vec{r} \rho dV

Not sure how to approach finding the total center of mass, though maybe the answer is right there and I don't see it. Any ideas?

Edit; Is the subdivision principle applicable here?

So:

\vec{R} = \frac{-M\frac{L}{2} -mL}{M+m}\boldsymbol{\hat{\jmath}}
 
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That looks good to me at least, and you do see that in the limit m<<M the stick goes back to L/2 CM.
 
Mindscrape said:
That looks good to me at least, and you do see that in the limit m<<M the stick goes back to L/2 CM.

Yeah, that's a good point! Thanks=)
 
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