Centre of mass of a rod with varying density

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total mass and the center of mass (COM) of a solid metal rod with varying density defined by ρ(x) = (3x² + 10x) / 25. The total mass was calculated using a triple integral, yielding M = 20 units. However, confusion arose when calculating the x-coordinate of the COM, which resulted in an unexpected value of 1.77, leading to doubts about its correctness given the increasing density. Participants confirmed that the COM should indeed be positioned to the right of the rod's center and suggested reevaluating the integrals, particularly emphasizing the need to integrate with respect to y for the COM calculation. The final guidance indicated that the correct approach would yield a COM value that aligns with the expected physical behavior of the rod's density distribution.
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Homework Statement


A solid metal rod with dimensions 5 x 2 x 1 is placed with one corner at the origin, such that 0≤x≤5, 0≤y≤2 and 0≤z≤1. The rods density is described by ρ(x) = (3x2 +10x) / 25
a) find the total mass of the rod
b) find the x-coordinate of the centre of mass of the rod.

Homework Equations


Total mass, M = ∫ dm = ∫ ρ dV
X coordinate of COM = (1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx

The Attempt at a Solution


a) By substituting the density function into the Total mass integral and doing a triple integral over dxdydx, i get:
M = ∫∫∫ (3x2 +10x) / 25 dx dy dz = ∫∫ [(x3 +5x2) / 25] dy dz with limit of 5 and 0.
From there I continue and get an answer of M = 20 units
My problem arises in part b) when I do:
(1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx = (1/M) * ∫ (3x3 +10x2) / 25 dx and use the limts of 5 and 0, i arrive at an X-coordinate for the centre of mass as 1.77. This doesn't make sense to me as surely with the stated denisty function, the mass if increasing as you progress from x=0, resulting in the COM being shifted towards the x=5 end?
Any help would be appreciated !
 
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Barnes1995-5-2 said:

Homework Statement


A solid metal rod with dimensions 5 x 2 x 1 is placed with one corner at the origin, such that 0≤x≤5, 0≤y≤2 and 0≤z≤1. The rods density is described by ρ(x) = (3x2 +10x) / 25
a) find the total mass of the rod
b) find the x-coordinate of the centre of mass of the rod.

Homework Equations


Total mass, M = ∫ dm = ∫ ρ dV
X coordinate of COM = (1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx

The Attempt at a Solution


a) By substituting the density function into the Total mass integral and doing a triple integral over dxdydx, i get:
M = ∫∫∫ (3x2 +10x) / 25 dx dy dz = ∫∫ [(x3 +5x2) / 25] dy dz with limit of 5 and 0.
From there I continue and get an answer of M = 20 units
My problem arises in part b) when I do:
(1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx = (1/M) * ∫ (3x3 +10x2) / 25 dx and use the limts of 5 and 0, i arrive at an X-coordinate for the centre of mass as 1.77. This doesn't make sense to me as surely with the stated denisty function, the mass if increasing as you progress from x=0, resulting in the COM being shifted towards the x=5 end?
Any help would be appreciated !
Hello Barnes1995-5-2. Welcome to PF !

Yes, you are correct to reason that the Center of Mass must lie to the right of the center of the bar.

You may have to show details of how you evaluated those integrals in order that we can give much help.

I disagree with your mass calculation.
 
Could you find the mass for 0≤x≤w and equate it to the mass from w≤x≤5?
 
SammyS said:
Hello Barnes1995-5-2. Welcome to PF !

Yes, you are correct to reason that the Center of Mass must lie to the right of the center of the bar.

You may have to show details of how you evaluated those integrals in order that we can give much help.

I disagree with your mass calculation.
This is how i did the mass integral
 

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Barnes1995-5-2 said:
This is how i did the mass integral
That's fine.

How about integral in the numerator for the COM calculation?
 
In getting the COM, you forgot to integrate with respect to y. Your answer should be 2x as large.

Chet
 
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