Change in electric potential energy

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The problem involves a conducting tire with a specified initial and final radius, along with a charge placed on its surface. The task is to determine the change in electrical potential energy as the tire's radius changes, affecting the electric potential.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric potential and radius, referencing the equation for electric potential (V = KQ/r). There is uncertainty about how to correctly apply this to find the change in potential energy, particularly regarding the initial charge on the tire and the implications of changing the radius.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have attempted calculations based on the provided potential values, while others express confusion about the assumptions regarding the charge distribution on the tire and the implications of the radius change.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve complexities related to the initial charge on the tire and how it interacts with the change in radius. There is also mention of potential work done due to pressure changes, which adds to the uncertainty in the interpretation of the problem.

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1. Homework Statement

A tire of radius 32.5 cm has a surface that is conducting. A charge of 4.89×10-8 C is then placed on the surface. The potential on the tire's surface is 1.35E+03 V. Later, suppose that some of the air is let out of the tire, so that the radius shrinks to 10.5 cm, the new potential on the tire's surface is 4.19E+03 V.

What is the change in electrical potential energy during the shrinking process?

2. Homework Equations

Change in electric potential energy = q (change in electric potential)

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Delta U = qDelta V) = (4.89e-8C)(4190J/C-1350J/C) = 1.4e-4 J

But that doesn't work.
 
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Physics197 said:
1. Homework Statement

A tire of radius 32.5 cm has a surface that is conducting. A charge of 4.89×10-8 C is then placed on the surface. The potential on the tire's surface is 1.35E+03 V. Later, suppose that some of the air is let out of the tire, so that the radius shrinks to 10.5 cm, the new potential on the tire's surface is 4.19E+03 V.

What is the change in electrical potential energy during the shrinking process?

2. Homework Equations

Change in electric potential energy = q (change in electric potential)

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Delta U = qDelta V) = (4.89e-8C)(4190J/C-1350J/C) = 1.4e-4 J

But that doesn't work.

There is an equation for V, just electric potential, that involves charge and distance (r).
 
V = KQ/r and then I can solve for the potential for both cases again...

Still doesn't help find the change in potential ENERGY
 
Physics197 said:
V = KQ/r and then I can solve for the potential for both cases again...

Still doesn't help find the change in potential ENERGY

Ok maybe I am reading this wrong but it says that the surface of the tire already has an electric potential. Then R is decreased, I guess the pressure released does work, and brings the surface to a new potential. So you need to find what the initial charge on the tire was and you can do this because you have V and R.

You know what... I am now not sure.
Its easy if all we are worried about is the point charge on the surface. But I am assuming, maybe incorrectly that the tire already has charge and we are also bringing all those charges in a circle closer together...

Sorry, and I will await anothers response
 

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