Checking the voltage in a light bulb socket

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the incident of an explosion occurring while checking for voltage in a light bulb socket without a bulb present. Participants explore the physics behind the incident and discuss safer methods for measuring voltage in such situations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the explosion as likely resulting from shorting the Line and Neutral connections in the socket with voltage tester probes.
  • Another participant suggests using probes with minimal exposed metal to prevent accidental contact with both Line and Neutral.
  • There is a query about the likelihood of making contact with both Line and Neutral using a specific type of probe.
  • Suggestions are made to insulate the probe tip to enhance safety during measurements.
  • Participants discuss the safety of measuring voltage at wall sockets compared to light bulb sockets.
  • There is a request for recommendations on textbooks that cover the relevant electrical concepts.
  • Clarification is provided that the probe in question is a Neon Circuit Checker.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the safety and methods of checking voltage, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the specifics of the incident.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of proper insulation of probes and the potential risks involved in measuring voltage in light bulb sockets, but do not resolve the underlying technical uncertainties.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals seeking to understand safe practices for measuring electrical voltage, particularly in household settings.

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Hello,

I was trying to check with a voltage tester if there was voltage in a light bulb socket (Edison type, no bulb present). Explosion happened (a relatively loud sound) and the safety circuit switch turned off.

My question is, how can one explain this with the laws of physics and how can one check for voltage in such situation without explosion and turning off safety switch?Nikola
 
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nikolafmf said:
Hello,

I was trying to check with a voltage tester if there was voltage in a light bulb socket (Edison type, no bulb present). Explosion happened (a relatively loud sound) and the safety circuit switch turned off.

My question is, how can one explain this with the laws of physics and how can one check for voltage in such situation without explosion and turning off safety switch?Nikola
Glad you are okay and you just popped the breaker.

You most likely shorted Line and Neutral in the open socket with your voltage probes. The outer screw-shaped conductor is Neutral, and the small button at the bottom of the socket is Line (when the socket is wired correctly). As you reached for the bottom button, you probably made contact with both the button and the outer threads with the metal part of that probe.

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Is it very likely that I can physically make contact with both Line and Neutral in the same time with such a probe?
Definitely. To temporarily use that probe until you get better ones, you could insulate most of that exposed metal probe tip with heatshrink tubing or electrical tape. Only leave about 1mm of the conductor tip exposed.

Oh, and please be careful. Why are you wanting to make this measurement? Measuring the voltage at the wall socket is a bit safer, as long as you are careful not to touch any metal with your hands or body when you are making the measurement.
 
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nikolafmf said:
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BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?
 
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berkeman said:
Definitely. To temporarily use that probe until you get better ones, you could insulate most of that exposed metal probe tip with heatshrink tubing or electrical tape. Only leave about 1mm of the conductor tip exposed.

Oh, and please be careful. Why are you wanting to make this measurement? Measuring the voltage at the wall socket is a bit safer, as long as you are careful not to touch any metal with your hands or body when you are making the measurement.
OK, thank you very much.
 
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BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?

Which wire?
 
Btw, can you, or somebody else, suggest me some popular or semi-popular book (first year undergraduate university textbook also acceptable) which explains those things?
 
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berkeman said:
BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?
It's a Neon Circuit Checker.
 
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