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The discussion revolves around a practice problem related to a polyphase electrical system, specifically focusing on determining the impedance of capacitors required to achieve a unity power factor at the source. Participants explore the implications of a balanced load and the use of Kirchhoff's laws in the context of this problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster describes the problem and expresses confusion regarding the unknown capacitor impedance needed to achieve unity power factor.
  • One participant suggests calculating the current into the loads and emphasizes the importance of treating each phase individually in a balanced three-phase system.
  • This participant proposes that to achieve unity power factor, the capacitor must provide a reactive current that cancels the inductive load's reactive current.
  • The suggested calculation for the capacitor's impedance is based on the relationship between voltage and current, leading to a formula for capacitance.
  • The initial poster later acknowledges understanding how the unity power factor condition aids in solving the problem but does not confirm the final answer.
  • Another participant inquires if the initial poster arrived at the same answer, indicating a shared interest in verifying results.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the final answer, as the initial poster does not confirm their result. There is a general agreement on the approach to solving the problem, but the specific calculations and outcomes remain unverified.

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The discussion does not provide specific values for the source current or detailed calculations, which may limit the clarity of the proposed solutions. Additionally, the assumptions regarding the balanced nature of the system and the specific values used in calculations are not fully detailed.

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Homework Statement


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"Determine x for which the power factor at the source is in unity."

The data given is in the diagram; The impedance of the capacitors is the only thing we don't know. The load and sources are balanced.

Homework Equations


Just the basics: Kirchoff's Current Law, possibly some Loop/Mesh equations?, basic Polyphase system properties.

The Attempt at a Solution



Basically I was taught that if I needed to find the impedance of the capacitor in this particular setup, I could represent the circuit as a 240angle0 source in series with the load and equivalent capacitor (-jx/3) in parallel with each other. The impedances resistor and additional load in this example can be combined to make it easier. But the only way I can solve for x as far as I understand is form an equation involving the current through the combined load and current through the capacitor, so that they add up to the current through the source. However, since we aren't given the current through the source, I am very confused.

Any ideas? (This isn't homework really, just a practice problem from an old test that is supposedly going to help me with an exam I have this Friday)
 
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First find the current going into the loads. Luckily you have a balanced 3 phase system otherwise it would be difficuilt to solve it. Consider each phase individually.

So if the current is 5-j10 (I am just using some number here calc it by V/Z) and it should be a lagging current due to an inductive load, you need to put a capacitor in parallel to get a unity pf.

So previously the source provided a current had a reactive component of -j10. With the addition of the cap, you want the cap to absorb a current of the same magnitude but opposite phase to cancel it out and get unity pf. So the cap current must be +j10. Hence the impedance of the cap must be (240+j0)/(+j10). Once you have the impedance use that to find the capacitance 1/(2*pi*f*C)= |Impedance|

To check your answer calculate the impedance of the cap and the load (75 angle 25 || 10). There should be no reactive component (or very little due to rounding off errors)

C= 14.94uF from my calcs.
 
Thanks; I actually finally realized how the fact the power factor was in unity could help me this morning and managed to solve it. Thanks for your help and time, though!
 
md5fungi said:
Thanks; I actually finally realized how the fact the power factor was in unity could help me this morning and managed to solve it. Thanks for your help and time, though!

Did you get the same answer as I did?
 

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