Circular Wire Loop - Please help

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The discussion revolves around a circular wire loop and a straight wire carrying currents, with the goal of determining the current in the loop when the magnetic field at a specific point is zero. The problem involves concepts from electromagnetism, particularly the calculation of magnetic fields generated by current-carrying conductors.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations for magnetic fields due to a straight wire and a circular loop, questioning how to equate them to find the unknown current. There is confusion about the implications of the magnetic field being zero and how to determine the direction of the current in the loop.

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Some participants have provided guidance on equating the magnetic fields from both sources to find the unknown current. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the calculations and the interpretation of results, with various interpretations of the relationships between the currents being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion over the direction of currents and the expected numerical results, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying principles of magnetic fields in this context.

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A circular wire loop with a diameter of 0.2m and a long, straight wire carry currents, I(1) AMP and I(2) AMP, respectively. Both wires are located in the plane of the page, and the distance between the long wire and the center of the circle is 0.15m.

What is the magnitude of I(1) if the magnetic field at point O is zero when I(2) = 3 AMP?

Here's where I get stuck. I know that I'm supposed to use the equations:
B= μ0*I/2*pi*d
and
B= μ0*N*I/2*r

I re-arranged the equations to figure out that to solve for I(1) it would be
I(1)= B*2*r/μ0N

N = 1, since it's a single loop
r = .1m
μ0 = 4*pi*10^-7

I think I'm supposed to solve B from the straight wire equation, so I re-arranged that equation to: I(2) = B*2*pi*d/μ0

I(2) = 3 AMP
d = .15m
etc...

But the question asks: what is the magnitude of I(1) if the magnetic field (B) at O is zero when I(2) = 3 AMP

Does that mean the answer would also be zero? How then would I determine direction of
I(1)? Clock-wise or Anti-clockwise?

Please help. I've confused myself.


Thanks.
 

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You need not take into account of the direction of the curents in the straight wire and the circular loop.
Find the field at the center of the circular due to straight wire and the circular loop, and equate them to find I1.
 
So, the field at the center of the circular loop due to the straight wire is zero when the current is 3 AMPs. How do I go from there to determine the current at I(1) - the loop?

I guess I don't understand what you mean by equating them.
 
B= μ0*I1/2*pi*d
and
B= μ0*N*I2/2*r

These two equations which you have written, together produce zero magnetic field at the center of the circular loop. I2 is given. Find I1
 
I think I have a mental block on this, but here's what I've done based on what you said...

For the straight wire: B = μ0*I1/2*pi*d
I plugged everything in and calculated B = 4 x 10-6

Then do I use that B in the second equation: B= μ0*N*I2/2*r to solve for I?

I don't get a round number, which I expected to get.

I also tried doing I1 + I2 = 0, and by that I would get a -3 Amp which would make the current direction on the circle switch directions to counterclockwise?

Am I getting any closer?
 
At the center of the coil magnetic field due to wire and loop must be equal and opposite.

B= μ0*I1/2*pi*d = μ0*N*I2/2*r
Substitute the values of d, r and I2, and find I1.
 

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