Clock problem involving displacement

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude and angle of the displacement of the tip of a clock's minute hand, which measures 10 cm from its tip to the axis of rotation. Participants are exploring this problem for three specific time intervals, focusing on the changes in position of the minute hand.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the angles of displacement for various time intervals, noting specific degrees of change such as 90 degrees, 180 degrees, and 360 degrees. There is also a consideration of the relationship between angular displacement and distance traveled by the tip of the minute hand. Questions arise regarding the use of radians and the appropriate units for expressing magnitude.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to calculate the distance traveled by the tip of the minute hand based on angular displacement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the radius of the circular path and the distance traveled, but there remains uncertainty about the specific calculations for magnitude.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that they have not extensively studied radians, which may impact their understanding of angular displacement. There is also a suggestion that the teacher may expect the magnitude to be expressed in centimeters or meters.

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Homework Statement


the minute hand of a wall clock measures 10 cm from its tip to the axis about which it rotates. the magnitude and angle of the displacement of the tip are to be determined for three time intervals. what are a) magnitude and b) angle from a quarter after the hour to half past, the c) magnitude and d) angle for the next half hour and the e) magnitude and f) angle for the hour after that


Homework Equations



I'm not sure...

The Attempt at a Solution



the only thing I was able to come up with is that for B) i know that's a 90 degree change, D) that's a 180 degree change and F) is a 360 degree change
 
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halenb said:

Homework Statement


the minute hand of a wall clock measures 10 cm from its tip to the axis about which it rotates. the magnitude and angle of the displacement of the tip are to be determined for three time intervals. what are a) magnitude and b) angle from a quarter after the hour to half past, the c) magnitude and d) angle for the next half hour and the e) magnitude and f) angle for the hour after that


Homework Equations



I'm not sure...

The Attempt at a Solution



the only thing I was able to come up with is that for B) i know that's a 90 degree change, D) that's a 180 degree change and F) is a 360 degree change

Have you guys studied radians?

and...

Angular displacement vs. distance?
 
we haven't really done a lot with radians but we have/are studying angular displacement but not vs distance
 
halenb said:
we haven't really done a lot with radians but we have/are studying angular displacement but not vs distance

Let us assume then that your teacher wants magnitude in cm or meters.

The hand of a clock is really the radius of a circle if the tip is considered the point of interest. So how much of a circle does the hand make given your question(s). I think you might have used C = 2(pi)r, yes? for the circumference of a circle? Well if you substitute r = what you were given in the problem for the distance from the middle of the clock to the tip, you have the distance the tip travels if it goes one full revolution or one full circumference.

Now if the hand does not go a full circumference, or revolution, then it goes some part of
2(pi)r...

For example, if the hand moves 90 degrees is this not 1/4 of a circumference or revolution...?
I think you see where I am leading you, yes?
 
yes that makes sense to find the distance it travels but, I am still not sure how to find the magnitude of each of them...? do i use the distance to figure that out?
 
or do i just do 10+10+ whatever the distance was
 
halenb said:
yes that makes sense to find the distance it travels but, I am still not sure how to find the magnitude of each of them...? do i use the distance to figure that out?

The magnitude is the distance or possibly angular displacement. Magnitude just means an amount without reguard to direction. So it is merely asking about how far did the tip go.

But do you need to put it in cm or radians or both...
Thats why I was asking you in similar problems if you had used radians.
 
I think it was asking for cm
 

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