Coefficient of friction of box of books

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The discussion focuses on two physics problems involving friction and motion. In Problem 1, a box of books weighing 300 N is pushed with a force of 400 N at an angle, and the calculation of the normal force and net force is crucial for determining acceleration and time to move 4 m. The correct approach involves considering both the weight of the box and the vertical component of the applied force to accurately calculate the normal force. In Problem 2, the task is to find the coefficient of kinetic friction for a box sliding down a 30° ramp with a known acceleration, requiring the decomposition of gravitational forces into components parallel and perpendicular to the ramp. Understanding these forces is essential for solving both problems accurately.
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Problem 1:
A box of books weighting 300 N is shoved cross the floor of an apartment by a force of 400 N exerted downward at an angle of 35.2* below the horizontal. If the coefficient of kinetic friction between box and floor is .57, how long does it take t move the box 4 m, starting from rest ?
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w = 300 N ==> m = 30.6 kg
u (coefficient)= .57
d = 4m
v0= 0

F (f) = u time F (normal)
F (normal) is the same as F (perpendicular)
F (per) = 300 cos 35.2* = 245.1 N
F (f) = .57 time 245.1 = 139.7 N
F = ma
139.7 = 30a --> a = 4.6 m/s2
V(final) = 2ad = 36.8 m/s
From vf = vi + at --? t = 8s
What i did wrong ?



Problem 2:
A box slides down a 30* ramp with an acceleration of 1.2 m/s2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp.
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Can some one give me some hints ?
 
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willingtolearn said:
Problem 1:
A box of books weighting 300 N is shoved cross the floor of an apartment by a force of 400 N exerted downward at an angle of 35.2* below the horizontal. If the coefficient of kinetic friction between box and floor is .57, how long does it take t move the box 4 m, starting from rest ?
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w = 300 N ==> m = 30.6 kg
u (coefficient)= .57
d = 4m
v0= 0
yes.

F (f) = u time F (normal)
F (normal) is the same as F (perpendicular)
good.
F (per) = 300 cos 35.2* = 245.1 N
F (f) = .57 time 245.1 = 139.7 N
not so good. In calculating the normal force, you need to consider the weight of the books and the component of the applied 400N force in the vertical direction, and apply Newton 1.
F = ma
139.7 = 30a --> a = 4.6 m/s2
In addition to the friction force, what other force acts in the x direction? What is the net force in the x direction?
V(final) = 2ad = 36.8 m/s
this equation is wrong it should be v^2=2ad. Or just use d=1/2at^2
 
PhanthomJay said:
not so good. In calculating the normal force, you need to consider the weight of the books and the component of the applied 400N force in the vertical direction, and apply Newton 1.
In addition to the friction force, what other force acts in the x direction? What is the net force in the x direction?
this equation is wrong it should be v^2=2ad. Or just use d=1/2at^2
F (parallel) = 172.9 N
Fnet = 400 - 172.9 -> 227.1 N
F = ma --> a = 7.4 m/s2
t = 1.04 s
still wrong ?
 
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willingtolearn said:
F (parallel) = 172.9 N
Fnet = 400 - 172.9 -> 227.1 N
F = ma --> a = 7.4 m/s2
t = 1.04 s
still wrong ?

In the x direction, ther are 2 forces acting: The x component of the applied 400N force, which is 400cos35.2, and the opposing friction force, which is mu times the normal force. The normal force, using Newton 1, is the book weight plus the vert component of the 400N force. .
 
got it
 
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