Coefficient of Static Friction = tan (angle of incline)

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the coefficient of static friction and the angle of incline, specifically exploring the assertion that the coefficient of static friction equals the tangent of the angle of incline. The original poster describes an experimental setup involving a wooden block on an incline and the forces acting on it as they attempt to validate this relationship.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the coefficient of static friction using measured forces and angles, while some participants question the directionality of the forces involved and the assumptions made in the equations presented.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the experimental setup and the equations used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the relationship between the forces and the coefficient of friction, suggesting that the original poster may need to adjust their approach to demonstrate the relationship clearly.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of specific conditions under which the relationship μ = tanθ holds true, indicating that the presence of additional forces complicates the situation. The original poster's setup involves varying the angle of incline and measuring the force required to initiate movement, which may introduce additional variables into their analysis.

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Homework Statement


I am trying to prove that the coefficient of static friction is equal to the tan of the angle of incline. (You can find the proof of this from )

I set the angle of incline as my independent variable and had an angle range from 10 to 37.5 degrees. After setting the slope to different angles, I measured the extra force required to cause the wooden block to begin to move on the slope. I did this by connecting a string to the wooden block and to a container that could be filled with sand (using a pulley to connect them).

Homework Equations



μ = (mg sin(θ) + Mg)/(mg cos (θ))

where m is the mass of the wooden block and M is the mass of the handing container and sand.

This simplifies down to μ = tanθ + M/(m cosθ)

However, it is also known that μ = tanθ

Equating the two equations we get tanθ + M/(m cosθ) = tanθ, which is impossible. Can anyone explain what I've down wrong here?

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried manipulating the equation,

M/(m cosθ) = μ - tanθ

=> M = μmcosθ - msinθ

=> M = m(μcosθ - sinθ)

Ultimately, I aim to draw a graph which shows μ = tanθ, however, with the values I obtained so far, no such graph can be drawn.

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me!
 
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Hello LCC, :welcome:

Nice experiment ! Well described in this your first post, kudos !
lem0ncheezcake said:
to cause the wooden block to begin to move on the slope
Sounds like you filled until m started to move upwards along the slope. am I right ? If so, do ##\mu m g \cos\theta## and ##mg\sin\theta## point in opposite directions, as your equation suggests ?
 
BvU said:
Hello LCC, :welcome:

Nice experiment ! Well described in this your first post, kudos !
Sounds like you filled until m started to move upwards along the slope. am I right ? If so, do ##\mu m g \cos\theta## and ##mg\sin\theta## point in opposite directions, as your equation suggests ?

Hi BvU,

Yes, you got the idea right, except I set it up so that m could start to move downwards along the slope.

I am not sure to be honest. I do know however, mgcosθ and mgsinθ are perpendicular to each other because they represent the vertical and horizontal components of force due to the weight of m. Does this help?
 
lem0ncheezcake said:
However, it is also known that μ = tanθ
This is for the situation as in the video when there is no extra force involved !
lem0ncheezcake said:
I set it up so that m could start to move downwards
Ok, so your μ = tanθ + M/(m cosθ) has the right sign and you have a set of observations of M as a function of ##\theta##. You can investigate if ##\mu## depends on ##\theta## (*). But if you want to show that ##\mu = \tan\theta## directly, you'll have to find a way to vary ##\mu## and work with M = 0.

(*)
##\mu = \tan\theta## doesn't mean that ##\mu## varies with ##\theta##; it means that the angle at which sliding is about to start has a tangent with a value that is equal to ##\mu##.
 
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If the pulley is at the top of the incline and you are adding mass M to try to pull the block up the incline, then the force balance on the block is
$$Mg-mg\sin{\theta} = F \leq mg\mu cos{\theta}$$where F is the friction force. So, the coefficient of friction satisfies the inequality
$$ \mu \geq \frac{M}{m}\sec{\theta}-\tan{\theta} $$and M satisfies the inequality:
$$M\leq m(\sin{\theta} + \mu cos{\theta})$$
The equal sign applies when the block is just on the verge of sliding.
 

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