Compressible air flow thorugh pipe

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High-speed compressible air flow through a pipe can reach sonic velocity (M=1) at the exit, but this is contingent on the flow rate and pressure drop within the system. The presence of a shock wave at the pipe exit depends on whether the flow rate necessitates exceeding Mach 1. For applications like relief valve discharges, the flow rate dictates if sonic conditions will occur. Numerical simulations may indicate choking at the exit, but physical conditions must also be considered to validate these results. Accurate flow calculations are essential to determine the actual behavior of the air flow at the pipe discharge.
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Hi guys:

I am wondering with issue regarding high speed (subsonic) compressible air flow thorugh a pipe exit to atmosphere. So here is detail:

Air coming from a reservoir and flowing thorugh an adiabatic constant area pipe and exit to atmosphere at the end of the pipe. Due to high velocity (M>0.3) we have to use compressible flow.
Now my question is:

1. from physical point of view will the flow reach M =1 at the exit always? I mean regardless of the pipe length. Since the air discharging to the atmosphere, I found from some forum they are saying it will be sonic velocity all the time.

2. from numerical analysis point: I did some simulation and i found no matter what pipe lentgh I use, the flow is choke at the exit (M = 1). If this is not right from physical point of view, how can overcome this issue. I am using atmosphereic pressure (0 gauge) at the outlet of the pipe as my boundary condition.

Comments are welcome.

Munni
 
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Hi munni,
This question comes up fairly often regarding vent headers on industrial processes, especially for example, relief valve outlets.

Whether or not a shock wave exists at the exit of a pipe is dependant on the flow rate. The flow rate may depend on the pressure drop throughout the piping system, but eventually you need to determine both pressure drop and flow rate through the pipe. Whether or not a shock wave is found at the pipe discharge is an integral part of that flow calculation.

In the case of a relief valve discharging through a vent header system to atmosphere, the flow rate is determined by the flow through the RV. Knowing this flow, you can determine if the exit velocity must exceed mach 1 or not. If the velocity doesn't need to exceed mach 1, there won't be a shock wave at the pipe exit.

In other cases, such as if you only have a pressure drop through the piping system, the flow rate and discharge velocity must be determined together.
 
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