Compute the Work: Pressure analogous to Volume

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on one mole of an ideal gas as it is warmed from an initial state of (Pi, Vi) to (3Pi, 3Vi) while maintaining a constant ratio between pressure and volume. The work is computed using the integral W = - ∫Vf ViPdV, with the relationship between pressure and volume expressed as P = cV, where c is a constant. The solution confirms that the work done is W = -4PiVi, aligning with the textbook answer. Additionally, the temperature correlation with volume is derived as T = (Pi/nR) * V^2, which also matches the book's solution. The term "analogous" in the context of pressure and volume is noted to be less clear than "proportional."
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Homework Statement



One mole of an ideal gas is warmed slowly, so that the pressure and volume go from (Pi, Vi) to (3Pi, 3Vi), in such a way that the pressure is analogous to the volume.

a) What's the Work (W)?
b) What is the correlation between the temperature and the volume during that process?

Homework Equations



W = - ∫Vf ViPdV

The Attempt at a Solution



In this case, I don't have a stable pressure or volume, so I'm at the third case. So, I need a function of P that contains V. I know PV = nRT, and I know that n = 1 mole. Plus, R is a known quantity. Problem is, T is not a constant, so I can't integrate P = nRT/V.

Any help is appreciated!
 
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Darthkostis said:
So, I need a function of P that contains V.
I think this statement
Darthkostis said:
the pressure is analogous to the volume.
means you are to take P and V as being in a constant ratio.
 
haruspex said:
I think this statement

means you are to take P and V as being in a constant ratio.

So kinda like this:

Pi/Vi = c = P/V

WW = - ∫Vf ViPdV = - ∫Vf VicVdV = - c ∫Vf ViVdV = -c[V2/2] |Vf Vi = -c * (9Vi2/2 - Vi2/2) = -4cVi2 = -4(Pi/Vi)*Vi2 = -4PiVi which is the book's answer.

As for (b):

PV = nRT <=> T = PV/nR = cV2/nR <=> T = (Pi/nrVi)*V2 which is the book's answer.

So technically I just use the "formula" that says that the pressure, divided by the volume, of any instance, is equal to the initial pressure, divided by the initial volume, since these two quantities are analogous, correct?
 
Darthkostis said:
So kinda like this:

Pi/Vi = c = P/V

WW = - ∫Vf ViPdV = - ∫Vf VicVdV = - c ∫Vf ViVdV = -c[V2/2] |Vf Vi = -c * (9Vi2/2 - Vi2/2) = -4cVi2 = -4(Pi/Vi)*Vi2 = -4PiVi which is the book's answer.

As for (b):

PV = nRT <=> T = PV/nR = cV2/nR <=> T = (Pi/nrVi)*V2 which is the book's answer.

So technically I just use the "formula" that says that the pressure, divided by the volume, of any instance, is equal to the initial pressure, divided by the initial volume, since these two quantities are analogous, correct?
Yes, but it it is a rather unusual use of the word "analogous". Proportional would have been clearer.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, but it it is a rather unusual use of the word "analogous". Proportional would have been clearer.

Okay, I'll keep that in mind for next time (translations sometimes have these problems). Thanks for the help!
 
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