Confusion with molecular geometry [carbon tetrachloride]

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The discussion centers on understanding the molecular geometry of four compounds: CCl4, CHCl3, CH2Cl2, and CH3Cl. The primary focus is on CCl4, where it is noted that carbon forms four single bonds with chlorine, leading to a tetrahedral shape due to the absence of lone pairs on carbon. This tetrahedral arrangement is similarly applied to the other compounds, although the presence of hydrogen atoms in CHCl3, CH2Cl2, and CH3Cl introduces additional considerations regarding molecular geometry.A key point raised is the rationale for considering only the valence electrons of the central atom when determining molecular geometry. It is clarified that the geometry is primarily concerned with the arrangement around the central atom, as peripheral atoms like chlorine do not influence the overall shape in the same way. For instance, in water, the bent geometry is attributed to the lone pairs on oxygen rather than the hydrogen atoms. This distinction helps in accurately modeling the spatial structure of molecules.
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Confusion with molecular geometry [carbon tetrachloride]

I'm trying to understand the molecular geometry of four different compounds:

CCl_{4} ,CHCl_{3} ,CH_{2}Cl_{2} ,CH_{3}Cl

Please tell me whether my thinking is right or not[conceptually]. If it's wrong kindly correct me.

for CCl_{4}

Carbon forms 4 different single bonds with chlorine. While deciding the shape of the molecule, we have to take into consideration the lone pairs and bond pairs of carbon. Since, lone pairs of carbon don't exist, we have to make sure that the angle between the bond pairs of electron of carbon is maximum and that is possible through tetrahedral arrangement. So, the shape is tetrahedral.

for CHCl_{3} , CH_{2}Cl_{2} , CH_{3}Cl

Same as the above arguement, therefore tetrahedral.

Am I right?

I have another doubt. While deciding the geomerty of the molecules, why do we have to consider the electrons of the valence shell of the central atom only, and why not the electrons of the valence shell of the peripheral atoms?
 
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sinjan.j said:
Confusion with molecular geometry [carbon tetrachloride]

I'm trying to understand the molecular geometry of four different compounds:

CCl_{4} ,CHCl_{3} ,CH_{2}Cl_{2} ,CH_{3}Cl

Please tell me whether my thinking is right or not[conceptually]. If it's wrong kindly correct me.

for CCl_{4}

Carbon forms 4 different single bonds with chlorine. While deciding the shape of the molecule, we have to take into consideration the lone pairs and bond pairs of carbon. Since, lone pairs of carbon don't exist, we have to make sure that the angle between the bond pairs of electron of carbon is maximum and that is possible through tetrahedral arrangement. So, the shape is tetrahedral.

for CHCl_{3} , CH_{2}Cl_{2} , CH_{3}Cl

Same as the above arguement, therefore tetrahedral.

Am I right?

Yes you are correct.

sinjan.j said:
I have another doubt. While deciding the geomerty of the molecules, why do we have to consider the electrons of the valence shell of the central atom only, and why not the electrons of the valence shell of the peripheral atoms?

You don't have to, it just doesn't make sense to talk about the geometry about the chlorine in carbon tetrachloride. Water adopts a bent geometry because of the lone pairs on the Oxygen, we don't really talk about the geometry around the Hydrogens.

When thinking about molecular geometry, you are trying to systematically model what a molecule may look like in space, hence we say that water adopts a bent geometry instead of saying that the geometry around the Hydrogen (in water) is X.

Hope that helps.
 
Thank You. got it.
 
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