Conservation Of Linear Momentum Question

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of linear momentum problem involving a collision between a car and a truck. The car has a mass of 750 kg and is traveling north at 54 km/h, while the truck has a mass of 1200 kg and is traveling south at 83 km/h. Participants are analyzing the velocities before and after the collision, particularly focusing on the implications of direction and the resulting calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of speeds from km/h to m/s and the implications of treating velocities as vectors with direction. There is debate over the correct interpretation of the momentum equations and the signs of the velocities. Some participants express confusion regarding the book's answer and question the logic behind both vehicles being treated as moving in the same direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions made in the problem. Some have arrived at a velocity for the truck after the collision that differs from the book's answer, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct interpretation of the momentum conservation principle in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the problem setup, such as the unusual mass of the truck and the speeds involved, which may not align with typical expectations for such a scenario. There is also mention of the homework's requirement to convert units, which some find unnecessary or confusing.

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Homework Statement


A 750 kg car is traveling north at 54 km/h while a 1200 kg truck travels south at 83 km/h. The two vehicles are about to have a head-on collision.

1.1) Convert the speed's of both car's into m/s.
1.2) After impact, the car rebounds backwards with a velocity of 18 km/h. Calculate the velocity of the truck after the collision.

Homework Equations


Pbefore = Pafter
P = impulse
MaUa + MbUB = MaVa + MbVb
U = initial velocity
V = final velocity
M = mass in kilograms

The Attempt at a Solution



1.1) km/h to m/s (kilometers per hour to metres per second): You divide the value in km/h by 3.6

Therefore the speed of the car in m/s:
54 / 3.6 = 15 m/s

And the speed of the truck in m/s:
83 / 3.6 = 23.06 m/s

1.2) So if we take north to be positive then the car is moving in the positive direction and the truck is approaching in a negative direction.

So Ua = +15 m/s
Ub = -23.06 m/s

And if car A rebounds in the opposite direction than Va is -5 m/s (18/3.6 = 5) and Vb will be +.

So if I then plug in all my values into the formula:
Pbefore = Pafter
MaUa + MbUB = MaVa + MbVb

750 * 15 + 1200 * -23,06 = 750 * -5 + 1200 * Vb
Therefore Vb = -10,56 or 10,56 in the original direction of the car (north and we took north to be positive) (+10,56 m/s)

The answer in the memo is 35,56 m/s
They say that both Ua and Ub are positive so Ua = 15 and Ub = 23,06 which conceptually does not make sense as they are heading towards each other from opposite directions and velocity is a vector so it has both magnitude and direction.

Is my answer correct or am I making a mistake in my logic or calculations?
Any help is appreciated, Thanks!
 
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If the truck is going 83 Kmph which is 23.1 m/sec before being hit head on by a car going in the opposite direction, how can it be going faster after the impact? The truck imparts momentum to the car. That momentum must be 'paid for' from the truck's momentum. I get your answer.
 
Ok thanks, the memo said otherwise and I really couldn't figure out how it was getting Ua and Ub both as positive and implying that they were moving in the same direction...
 
The answer in the book must be wrong. I too got -10.6 m/s.
Therefore Vb = -10,56 or 10,56 in the original direction of the car (north and we took north to be positive) (+10,56 m/s)

However, the negative indicates that after the collision, the truck has a velocity of 10.6 m/s in it's original direction of travel.
 
-10.6m/s has to be wrong too as the truck would now overtake the "rebounding" car.

A sanity check assuming truck and car stick together has the speed of the merged car+truck south at greater than the questions rebound speed of 18km/h.

Not at all sure why the question asks in step 1.1 to convert from km/h to m/sec . It also seems a bit odd that a truck would be traveling faster than the car or weigh so very little. The car would have to be a "Smart" two seater with a very light driver. Not sure what kind of truck weighs only 1200kg

An interesting question for all the wrong reasons.
 

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