Conservation of Net Mechanical Energy in SHM

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating the conservation of net mechanical energy in simple harmonic motion (SHM) for a simple pendulum. The user is struggling with showing that the derivative of the total energy equation, E = K + U, equals zero, indicating energy conservation. They derived the expression for energy and found that its derivative is not zero, leading to confusion about their calculations. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly substituting the angular velocity and understanding the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in SHM. The key takeaway is that the total mechanical energy remains constant, and the user needs to ensure proper differentiation and substitution in their calculations.
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I have a question set that I need to be able to answer before my exam next month, I know how to answer all of them except this one. I get the feeling I'm being an idiot.

Show that the simple harmonic motion solution of the simple pendulum in the form $$\theta (t) = A\cos ({\omega _0}t)$$ (constant A) conserves net mechanical energy E = K + U.

I have the equation for E as E = \frac{1}{2}(m{v^2} + mgl{\theta ^2})
I want to show its derivative is equal to 0 obviously. After I substitute in \theta \left( t \right) and differentiate, I get \frac{{dE}}{{dt}} = \frac{{{A^2}mgl{\omega _0}\sin (2{\omega _0}t)}}{2}

Which is not 0... What am I doing wrong?
 
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Habez said:
Which is not 0... What am I doing wrong?
(m.v.v )' is not 0, v changes with time
here is derivation---
te= ke + pe
= (i.w.w/2) + (c.theta.theta/2)
=(i.w0.w0.a.a.(sin(w0.t)^2). 0.5) + (c.a.a.(cos(w0.t)^2)/2) (since w=theta' , so w= -w0.A.sin(w0.t)
=(c.a.a.(sin(w0.t)^2)/2) +(c.a.a.(cos(w0.t)^2)/2) (since w0=(c/i)^0.5 , so c=i.w0.w0)
=ca.a/2 (which is a const)
 
hackhard said:
(m.v.v )' is not 0, v changes with time
here is derivation---
te= ke + pe
= (i.w.w/2) + (c.theta.theta/2)
=(i.w0.w0.a.a.(sin(w0.t)^2). 0.5) + (c.a.a.(cos(w0.t)^2)/2) (since w=theta' , so w= -w0.A.sin(w0.t)
=(c.a.a.(sin(w0.t)^2)/2) +(c.a.a.(cos(w0.t)^2)/2) (since w0=(c/i)^0.5 , so c=i.w0.w0)
=ca.a/2 (which is a const)
I'm sorry, I can't see what you're saying as I am struggling to see what you have wrote. $${{dE} \over {dt}}$$ has to be equal to 0 so that there is no change in the total energy, i.e. energy is conserved - right?
 
I guess in your notation
$$v=\dot{\theta}=-A \omega_0 \sin(\omega_0 t).$$
Plug this into the formula for the energy and remember what's ##\omega_0## in terms of the other parameters in the problem.
 
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